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Ok, I received my 190E 1.8 about 5 days ago, and I've been trying to compile a list of things that need fixing. I knew the car had some pretty major engine problems before I bought it, and because I am strapped for cash, I'm happy doing most of work myself if I can. I just need to find out what the problems are and prioritize the order with which I'll fix things. Any help suggesting what to fix first is much appreciated.

You guys seem to know your cars pretty well, so I'll just list down symptons and what I think the problem is. Any input on things that I don't know or mistakes that I've made will be great. Also, if you could tell me whether changes and replacements are easy enough to be done at home, I'd appreciate that.

This is going to be a long read, but I really do need the help.

Symptons
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Hard startes, needs a good nudge on gas while starting, sometimes more than once. Starte motor sounds fine. Right after it starts, sputtering with plenty of engine knock, like its running on 3 cylinders instead of 4. Also, if the car is slightly cold, it will sputter on acceleration from a stand still, knocking all through first up to second gear, but sometimes it doesn't do that. The car is as smooth as butter above 40mph though, and on the motorway, it runs great, purring its way happily at 70mph. It has no problem looking for gear.

My diagnosis
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I know from the car's previous owner that the spark plugs need replacing. I'm guessing they explain the hard start and the sputtering, as well as the knock during acceleration from a standstill. I'm also suspecting a set of dirty fuel injectors, or clogged fuel rail.



Symptoms
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Chain noise from bottom right of car at idle, as well as rolling starts, up to 30mph. No grating noise, just sounds like a loose chain.

My diagnosis
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No clue. It doesn't seem to be affecting performance, it's just a noise, but I'm concerned it might be something serious that needs to be looked at.



Symptoms
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Car overheats in stuck traffic. Temperature shoots past 80 while oil pressure is 2.something. If the car is in D at a stoplight, the car shakes, threatening to stall. Once shifted into neutral, it idles at 1000rpm, which I think is too high.

My diagnosis
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I'm sure the water pump needs replacing, and maybe a radiator and cooling system flush. There is defintely no coolant loss because I check the reservoir bottle every day and it hasn't moved, which means I'm not losing water. The previous owner told me the water pump defintely needs replacing (find out why below). That explains the overheating, but doesn't explain the stall threat in D.



Symptoms
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On full wheel lock, the car stalls, in both D and R.

My diagnosis
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Previous owner told me he blew the head gasket while stuck in traffic in London. The car overheated (due to faulty water pump), and they got his engine block welded. The technicians told him that there was 'compression' loss and that was why the car stalled on full wheel lock. To me, that doesn't make sense because the car runs like silk over 40mph. I've tried kickdowns and the car will happily go for hours at 80. The acceleration is pretty impressive, and eventhough I've never experienced the 1.8's performance, I can tell it has gobs of torque. I can't see how there is compression issues in one of the cylinders. Also, my old man has an 84 200, and it had the same problem (nearly stalling on full wheel lock). Turned out to be electrical. In my car, the alternator and battery have been recently replaced.


This car probably sounds like a dump, and in all likelihood it probably is. I have to live with it for a while, so I have to figure a way to keep it in running order without dishing out a fortune for a new engine. Gradually though, I would like to fix it up, slap on an intake and resell it.

Besides getting rid of it, what do I need to do? Cheers to all who've helped me so far.
 

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Thanks...

I haven't gotten round to doing a full oil + filter change, but I have bought fuel cleaner and will dump it in today, since I have drive to London.

I'm pretty certain the overheating is a pump problem, but thanks for the tip anyhow. If replacing the pump doesn't solve it, I'll know where to look.

Thank you for your help. I'll be sure to tell you if I need anything else. I just need to get round to actually starting work on the car.
 

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The all elusive OVP

I feel like a right dunce now, but I checked behind the battery, took out the black protective shield, found the ECU but for the life of me can't find the OVP (neither relay nor fuse). What am I looking for? There is a grilled unit to the right of the ECU, and there's a flat, semi circular object to the left of the ECU. Which one is it? And once I've found it, how do I know its busted? Am I looking for a fuse?
 

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Goddamit! Found it!

Thank you, thank you babybenz!

I wouldn't have found it without the pic. There is no way I would have known there was anything with a FUSE next to the ECU!

Anyway, as most of you suspected, the fuse is blown. I have taken it out and will now frame it as a momento. Tomorrow, it's Halfords for a replacement and hopefully, some of my problems will go away.

BTW, to those following my saga, I've replaced the spark plugs (after struggling with the last one towards the cockpit, such a tight squeeze between the block and cowling). I can't really tell whether there is a noticable difference - will tell you guys tomorrow when I take it for a drive.

Watch this space!
 

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Certainly not my first DIY job, but it is my first on a German. I'm used to working on Jap...

Certainly not my first DIY job, but it is my first on a German. I'm used to working on Japanese cars, and I had a heavily modified Mitsubishi Colt (coupe Lancer). No more.

Anyway, took the car out today, still hard to crank to a start, still rough idle, but no more sputtering what so ever. Just silky smooth acceleration.

There's still a clanking noise that I suspect is the timing belt, but I won't make any judgements until I've got the fuse installed.

Will keep you guys posted, and thanks for the support.
 

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Guys, just wanted to tell you all that you've been a great help. It's time for me to move on. This 190 has been causing me more grief than pleasure, so she's off to be swapped tomorrow (hopefully) for something less prestigious but more within my scope. For the past few months I have discovered:
1. Definite low compression on piston 3 due to...
2. Weak engine block welds (!).
3. Dead water pump, now leaking
4. Rusted (beyond recognition) heater matrix.
5. Blown coolant level/washer level sensors
6. Blown lines in dashboard loom.
7. Worn tensioner belt.
8. Worn tracking rod.
9. Worn fan viscous coupling.
10. As of yet, undiagnosed sound from drive shafts.
11. Rusted ignition leads.
12. Leaking rubber seals on trunk (leading to small lakes inside trunk)

I've fixed what I could, lived with some, and wondered how I'd make the money to buy parts needed for the rest of them. What have I learned? Never assume a relative isn't going to screw you over on a car, and never leave anything unfixed. If your Merc complains, fix it pronto, or you'll suffer the consquences later because 1) broken parts tend to ruin others 2) everything sort of fails at the same time, making fixing it that much more difficult and costly.

Thanks again for all your help
 
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