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Power Seat Relay A

2.8K views 6 replies 2 participants last post by  WaxhawFive  
#1 ·
I have been troubleshooting a battery drain condition and this led to the discovery that my power seat relay is always on. All of the seat functions work including the memory.
I searched and found several threads about current draw on this relay with some reporting that theirs was overheating, but no real solutions. Is it normal that this relay would energize as soon as the car battery is connected to the main leads? It would seem that the power seats would not need to function until the ignitions is turned on. Guess I need to find a wiring diagram showing late-model power seats to see if this is how it should be or not.
I was surprised to learn that the power seat switches and wiring harness are different between my '91 with standard power seats and my '93 with the sportline power seats.
 
#5 ·
A few pages later, in the same document package, I find this interesting revised drawing of the same circuits.
1 - As denoted by the revision note 2 and 3, it's hard to imagine that after 1990 the only way to power the K5 seat relay was to open one of the front doors, but this is what's indicated. If you remove the circle-2 wires and the diode, then the only way terminal 4 of K5 gets power is through the door contacts. I'd love to hear anyone else's interpretation of these revision notes.
2 - Can anyone clue me in on revision note 1, that the K5 relay switched from a code-D to a code-A in 1997 and beyond? What is the difference a code-a and code-d relay?
 
#6 ·
What you're not getting is the seat diode. The door switch will provide power when the door is open, so that you can open or close the window as you leave the car. When the door is closed, only switched power reaches the window circuit. The diode sits between the two power sources and prevents power from backfeeding through the entire electrical system when the door is open and the switch is off. The blocking diodes are usually located on the underside of the fuse box, accessible by crawling under the steering wheel. More here:




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#7 ·
Thanks for the reply. I certainly understand how a diode works, and how the dual power feeds work. Maybe you didn't see revision note #2 in the second diagram and my comments in the 5th post. It seems to indicate that the diode and those two indicated wires are only present before 1989 which I don't think is the case.

I now believe that I do not have a problem with the seats or any associated wiring, only a slowly failing battery that is past due to be replaced.