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Is it me, or is a Creeeeeking Door Strap/Stay like Nails on a Chalkboard??

I had enough, so I opted to change it out.

Now, smooth, and quiet.

This post is for the Left FRONT Door, 1999 S420


One Comment on Re-Installing the $Zillion$ Seat Adjuster:

To RE-INSTALL, you Slide the REAR portion (with the engaging catches sticking OUT) in FIRST, THEN simply Snap the Front Portion in.
 

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I have NEVER had a door strap/stop problem on ANY automobile until this summer on my 96 s500. This part is another example of MB over engineering that results in agrivation and failure. This part is too complicated and too fragile.

Mine failed on the drivers door; the strap/stop mechanism failed and exploded inside the door frame. It left a protruding pimple 2" in diameter protruding on the exterior of the driver's door panel. I was very disappointed since the car has not a single ding or scratch on it ANYWHERE. Well, now it does!

I am thankful that it did not explode while the window was down; it might have shattered the glass as well.

This is a $360 job at the MB dealership; I had it done since I was traveling at the time. The dealer also shared with me that they had an incidence were the strap/stop failed in the open position and the door would not close. The car obviously could not be driven; nor could it be towed.

A service technition had to be dispatched to cut the strap so that the door would close so that the car could be towed.

The spring loaded device can not be lubricated to extend its life.

Hope this helps
 

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This is a great writeup, the only real difference is on the early cars there are screws in the arm rest compartment under plugs. I would suggest using the butterknife technique on the rear swivels rather than the pulling hooks, and definately dont loose the washer on the pin, or forget to but the rubber boot on. On mine both ears had broken off.
 

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Wheres the rolex:)
 

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I would suggest using the butterknife technique on the rear swivels rather than the pulling hooks, .
In my "old" WIS, the procedure specified the "butter knife", but in my "new" WIS, it specifies the Instrument Cluster Hooks to unlock the swivels. Go figure..
 

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Door straps are painfull and very noisy when broken!!!!!
Awsome write up!!!!
 

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WOW...that's a lot of work. I'm glad I paid to have mine replaced....not sure if I would have all the tools to do this replacement.
 

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Very good pictures! That's the best set of pictures I've seen of the swivel tabs and their location. It'll come in handy whenever I have to do the back ones. Thanks ! My front ones have already been done -- I can tell because, as s500lang pointed out, they should be painted to match the car color, because they come shipped with the shiny brass color!!, and mine aren't painted.

I suppose you could get the body shop to paint 'em for a few donuts -- you can probably do black yourself.

I've replaced two of these on my '84 W123 several years ago -- now that it was mentioned, one of them also caused my door to stick open. Fortunately, the W123's door panels are a little easier to get off...no Bowden cable, seat switch nor speaker stuff. The rear seats do have the window switch on them however. I don't recall getting much warning when they go bad -- they just sort of implode.
 

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Ja,

I noticed the Un-Painted Chomated Metal on Install.

Since my Dealer does not carry the Color Coded Spray Cans in Stock.... I opted to just install the stupid thing AS IS.

It's my wife's car... and she didn't care if it was bare metal.
 

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What sounds did it make when it was bad? I'm not sure if I should replace mine or not. When I open my doors, I hear a *pop* and *thunk* sound on each stop position. My driver door does that. The other ones doesn't have the *pop* sound but only a *thunk* sound at each stop position. Does a brand new one not make a sound at all? Maybe I should make a video of the sounds.
 

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What sounds did it make when it was bad? I'm not sure if I should replace mine or not. When I open my doors, I hear a *pop* and *thunk* sound on each stop position. My driver door does that. The other ones doesn't have the *pop* sound but only a *thunk* sound at each stop position. Does a brand new one not make a sound at all? Maybe I should make a video of the sounds.
"Yes" to all of the above... sounds like your driver's door is Aby-Normal.

A MB door should not make any noise opening and closing, and should glide smoothly... even with the honkin' heavy doors on the W140.

The new stop makes ZERO noise, and is as smooth as glass.
 

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Very nice write up, made me feel like i was doing it. Mine broke and did the dimples in the door as well, its enought to piss you off.....Great job!:thumbsup:
 

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I guess I definitely have to replace my Driver one.
Here's a video of my other doors

Does it sound bad?
 

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That sounds pretty normal. It should be smooth, but with some resistance, obviously, in order to stop at the right spots. Since you said the driver door sounds different from the others, and the driver's is usually the first to go, then be glad you're getting a warning shot fired over the bow.

And see if you can get some correct paint ! The yellow-brass color doesn't look so bad with black (or my maroon W123), and maybe it'll work with white. The good thing about not painting them, is it is proof to the next buyer (if you can ever fathom selling it) that it's been replaced at least once.
 
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