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The Germans are better at modding their cars than you will ever be. So....it would make more sense to buy one of their performance oriented models, rather than grouse around about modifying a run-of-the-mill, E series six cylinder car. Or, pay the money for a well maintained 500.

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Nitrous will destroy the top of your motor eventually...just depends on how much you use it. It you really want bragging rights, install a supercharger or twin-turbo set up and get some decent times @the Trap, because those aren't anything to brag about yet.

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nitrous if used safely,and err on the rich side will last a long time.Really I only use it once a month at the track in the spring,and fall.I made a 6 fast than a s500,that is something to brag about.I have a 4800 pound car,14.4 is really all she will do.
 

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Want more HP? Just buy a model with a M119 V8 in it. :thumbsup:
 

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You don't get it do you,my 6 will get 29 mpg highway,and should I need to race a asshole,my nitrous does that.

Mercs are heavy cars anyways. If you want to race consider something lighter, gut out an E21/E30 BMW. :thumbsup:
 

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race in a w124 ? I cruise in mine but to each his own. When I feel "spunky" I beat my 03 civic. quick question- other than the red W124 from Delaware, has anyone else see a turbo w124 ?
 

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You don't get it do you,my 6 will get 29 mpg highway,and should I need to race a asshole,my nitrous does that.
[cough]Bullshit![/cough]

Sorry. No way you are getting 29mpg out of any W140 that is not a diesel. Period. Unless you're driving at 40mph behind a semi.

I hypermile my E320 as much as possible and can barely achieve that when i'm super focused and not going too fast. And only on long inter city distances such as when i'm going to visit mum in Phoenix. If the LA traffic is going just fast enough (~40mph) to keep moving and I don't get impatient when it opens up past San Bernadino that is. My daily driving has me at 23.46mpg average with a best of 25.61mpg. That's only from November since I lost the previous years data when my phone crashed and I had to reset it.

Yes, unlike the W140 the W124 has the archaic 4 speed. But the S320 is NOT going to give you 7mpg extra vs the EPA estimate. It's a ponderous heavy thing.


You'd have to use seriously long gearing like the W124.034's 2.24 rear end ratio to get anywhere near that.

Now, don't get me wrong, the M104 is a pretty nifty, thrifty motor and can achieve such milage given the right gearing as mentioned etc, but not in regular driving with the 5000lb beast that is the W140. On one long mostly downhill stretch of road, all freeway. Yes. Like if you filled up at Chiriaco Summit and drove to LA or Phoenix. But only under those circumstances.

I don't buy it.
 

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[cough]Bullshit![/cough]

Sorry. No way you are getting 29mpg out of any W140 that is not a diesel. Period. Unless you're driving at 40mph behind a semi.

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Yea 29 mpg with a M104 is doubtful.
I recently did a trip all the way from NV to TX and back (over 3200 miles) with a 2000 E320 4Matic with a more fuel efficient M112 engine and the best I got cruising 65 mpg was 29.8 MPG. And were talking about long distances of only freeway.
Normally between city/hwy it will avg about 27 mpg.


 

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Nate,
I dont think they are calling you a liar, but your method of calculation may be a bit generous. I'm usually generous with estimating my gallons used, and it best I have ever gotten with my wagon is 23.4 (all back roads 40-50mph, no stops).
Without accurate inputs you may have gotten a bum result. You can also average out 10 tanks of gas and see what your average is.
 

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29 mpg is achievable easily with an M104 in an E320 Cabriolet with the roof down. If your 140 is running correctly it should do the same, I don't think there is a huge weight difference.

Fix the vacuum leaks and get a tune would be my advice. :)
 

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Could be actually and that's a good point?? I'm using 4.55 litres to the gallon.
 

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I have no reason to lie.Maybe my engine is more broken in.I also don't run cutting oil for motor oil,I run 15w40 diesel oil.
Diesel oil is not going to give you 7mpgs chief. Sorry.

As someone has said, your method of calculation is suspect. And that's assuming your tire size is same as the standard size (which would still mean your speedometer and odometer are reading slightly higher than your indicated speed/ distance.)


And my motor has 168000 miles. I'd say it's broken in a little bit.
 

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Could be actually and that's a good point?? I'm using 4.55 litres to the gallon.

Aha, of course, that's it...I was reading the doubters and thought: What?! yeah US gallons are small.
I easily get 30 mpg out of mine on a trip; and that's fully loaded with ppl and luggage too.

An amazing result for a (20 year old technology) performance engine.
 
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