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Britsoich Top Gear compares X-type Jag, 330i BMW and C320. All good cars, they say, but the C loses - gets thirs place. It loses in handling, performance, and value for money. Only category it wins is interior space.<br>
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Mmm... not sure I agree (having owned many BMWs and now a C320). The Merc is the better car, I feel.<br>
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Re: Ouch - report in June 2001

Why do you feel it's a better car? I've had similar problems with my 320 and A4 - sunroof, radio, door seals, etc. I'm not too impressed with the C (but I am with the S).<br> <br> jc<br> 96 A4 Quattro<br> 01 320
 

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All contests depend on the criteria

Don't know about the X, but as far as handling and performance (acceleration, handling, etc.) the BMW is far superior. 'Value for money' depends on what it is you value in a car. <br> <br> If the criteria were ride, features, styling, and quiteness, the MB would likely win.<br> <br> As far as the X, anyone who would pay $40K for a 'fixed up' Ford Mondeo is a fool.<br> <br>
 

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I don't want this to sound like sour grapes or shooting the messenger, but....here goes!<br> <br> Top Gear Magazine is pure rubbish. It is written by vulgar half-wits, high on testosterone. All they value is speed, 'street cred', and roadholding on smooth tarmacadam. They review the cars from the perspective of the barely-pubescent road-rager to whom a fast car with street cred (whatever the hell that is, something peculiar to the British I suppose) are the most important criteria. Comfort? Who needs it? Long-term reliability? The car's gonna be written off in three months in a street race, who cares?<br> <br> I am not arguing for a Consumer Reports approach to car evaluation here, but one must realise the demographic Top Gear is aimed at bears very heavily on their editorial bias. Check out their website if you are in doubt about their target readership, and don't want to waste real money on a magazine.<br> <br> There are far better magazines with more balanced, even explicit, ranking criteria that may actually be useful to those of us who keep their cars longer than 6 months.
 

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Better car, why?

I feel (having now owned 10 BMWs and one Mercedes) that the Mercedes is better for me (and that is subjective of course!) because:<br> <br> - it feels more solid. Hard to define but I love drivingit even more than the BMWs,w hich I loved also. It feels more like a 5/3 mix: 5's solidity with 3's responsiveness.<br> - engine feels more powerful when accelerating thorough the range<br> - more inside room (even the magazine acknowledges that)<br> - mechanisms work better - eg auto wipers, cruise control, anti-skid, etc<br> <br> Michael<br> <br>
 

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Shooting messenger?

Not al all interpreted as shooting the messenger - I'm actually very glad to hear that opinion. I cannot understand why the Jag would beat the Mercedes - inconceivable - and I detect some (British) national bias in there too. Glad to hear I'm not alone in thinking this review a bit off.<br> <br> <br> <br>
 

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Re: Re: Ouch - report in June 2001

i concur with all of your <br> observations concerning <br> the magazine 'Top Gear', being a Brit myself i can honestly say that 'street cred' is typically a product <br> of the demonic driving habits<br> of the joy riding and road raging mind set that is at present making the roads in the UK one of the worst places to drive on earth, and your right, even if one<br> owned any of these cars it would probably be stolen in four to five days anyway!!,the assumption about the Jag ve Benz etc is also <br> probably correct, British <br> pride and quality in the motoring world ended decades<br> ago, hell the new Queen Mary<br> ocean liner is going to be <br> built by the French!
 

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Worst roads?

Hey,<br> <br> Mmm... I drive in Canada, Europe, US, Asia.. let me tell you, British roads are among the world's very best in terms of driver behaviour. I am not British so this is not nationalist bias!<br> <br> Michael (lives in Canada and works in US/Canada/UK/Hong Kong)<br>
 
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