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Just courious how many w140 owners have notices this ticking sound caused by faulty oil guides??

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mike, it's a known fact a good part of m119s will need the oil guides replaced sooner or later. hopefully you are one of the lucky ones:D. not cheap, but easy repair. if you can change oil/filter and brake pads on your car, should be able to tackle the job by yourself.
 

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For anyone who is interested, AutohausAZ has the oil guides for $15 a piece or an aluminum version that won't break like the oem ones for $23...

To change all into aluminum ones that'll cost $185!
 

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For anyone who is interested, AutohausAZ has the oil guides for $15 a piece or an aluminum version that won't break like the oem ones for $23...

To change all into aluminum ones that'll cost $185!
wtf.... i was just trying to find oil guides on autohaus and cant find them..... haha
send link please???
 

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Early production M119s, mine, have aluminium ones to begin with :)
But sometimes the lil o-rings can bust out, very rare though. Cheap.
 

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Early production M119s, mine, have aluminium ones to begin with :)
But sometimes the lil o-rings can bust out, very rare though. Cheap.
Do you know how early or what year they started putting cheap plastic ones in?
 

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My mechani "Willy" in Great Neck said its the 95-97 W140's that had the plastic. He replaced some of mine and the ticking came back 3 months later. I brought it back and the word "glue" was used. Its 2 months with no ticking.
 

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No ticking at 134K; in fact one of the quietest V8's I've ever heard. Either they were already done on mine or I'm very lucky.
 

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Mine has been ticking for 2 years now. =(
If you plan on doing anything, make sure you go to the right person. My first mechanic replaced the cams to no avail. Then I became involved with this site and discovered what the problem really was, then searched to find a mechanic who knew what to do and would do it. He did the work and The ticking stopped for 2 months, then came back. I just got it back from him and he only charged me 100 to fix it. I'm still not sure what he did, but he did mumble something about glue (seriously) , but now reading that you can buy aluminum replacements, that would be the way to go. If it comes back on me, I'm looking for a new Mechanic
 

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BUMP^! I was wondering... you guys rather buy the aluminum one or the plastic? I need to order the cam oilers like NOW. I see that it was mentioned that the 95-99 changed out to plastic.. and mine is a 93 which will have the aluminum. Any suggestions?
 

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buy whatever you want. you'll never have to replace either of them again unless you keep the car for another 100k

asfik only 91/92 had the alum ones. not 93 not 94 not 95
 

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BUMP^! I was wondering... you guys rather buy the aluminum one or the plastic? I need to order the cam oilers like NOW. I see that it was mentioned that the 95-99 changed out to plastic.. and mine is a 93 which will have the aluminum. Any suggestions?
well back when i had my 93 400sel, the oilers were replaced and the ones in it were plastic, so i don't know what to say. anyways dealer doesn't sell aluminum i asked a couple of dealers and they said they were never aluminum. i need to change mine also but don't know which to get. i honestly am not picky about the price of oilers i just want what is best. and i just want to do the job once and get it over with.

also let me add a little secret shops do. they dip the end of the oiler in some sort of glue so it doesn't pop off. i have seen some shops doing this, and surprisingly it works
 

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Hmm... wonder what kinda glue they use...? So im guessing when installing the new oilers.. there is a risk of them popping off or they just "glue" them incase something like that happens? Well i checked that Autoz place and all the aluminum ones are on back order. Now i am kinda just going to pull the trigger and get the plastic ones then. But im going to call and double check to see how long the back order is. I my car has been ticking for 4+ years now and i know my lifter is out probably lol.
 

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I just did the job on my 1994 S420. I went aluminum and my car had been ticking for 3 years. Replaced the guides with aluminum ones (they are blue rather than black)from Autohausaz it was worth the extra money because I will be keeping the car. The third oiler back on the passenger side had blown the end out and the tapping was driving me crazy. I also replaced the timing chain guides and would suggest you do the same as you need to remove the guides to change the ones at the front of the engine and from the heat the plastic almost disintegrates with the touch let alone lifting the tabs to separate the two halfs of the guide. The car is now so quiet I can hear the fuel injectors clicking off and on and with the hood closed all you hear is quiet.
 

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Also the oilers snap in and snap out. Very easy to do and if you're putting new in no need for glue just dip into the oil in the head and rub the o rings.
 

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Also the oilers snap in and snap out. Very easy to do and if you're putting new in no need for glue just dip into the oil in the head and rub the o rings.
on the plastic ones they dip it in glue. but your suppose always dip o-rings in oil aren't you? do you know how that chain guide comes off?
 

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Mine has a pro date of 11/92. Has Aluminum ones. I just replaced the o-rings. Ticking was occasional, for a second or two, when Idling. Unfortunately they went cheap in later years of the M119. 32 O- rings for 34 dollars.
 
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