No Reverse 95 S420 722.366

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Bruster

Discussion Starter · Dec 11, 2013

Last night, pulled into neighbor's driveway, put her into reverse to back into my garage and nothing. All forward gears work fine, flawlessly, actually.No indication of failing bands and clutches.

I've spent the better part of my morning reviewing threads and pdf's relating this common problem with the reverse seal tearing or o ring in valve body? Service bulletin says check plates and sealing rings on brake B-3 piston...

309,334 original miles on the drive train. I suspect the seal finally wore out.

Please throw some opinions over here.

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MAVA

· #4 · Dec 12, 2013 (Edited)

Bruster,

Sadly, it is a small(2 inches or so in diameter) o-ring with a lip on it. It just tears with time, but if you lost reverse completely, and you have no reverse when the car is cold. The lip on the o-ring has completely been torn off...

Lucky you, yours failed at 300k, mine was shot at 130k, and I rebuilt my transmission myself earlier this year for that, and I'm about to do it again on another benz.

At 130kmiles, half of my clutches were worn, so I replaced all the clutches, but my brake bands were like new, so I did not change those...Their are a few updates on that transmission that should be changed. I would defiantly put in a new B2 piston for sure, and a new torque converter too

While you are fixing your transmission, change out the rear main engine seal, bracket, and bolts. Mercedes improved the design of the rear engine seal, and it is waaaaaaaaaaaayyyy better than before...

Here is the picture of the reverse seal(the inside seal on step7 is the culprit):

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/1369461-722-5-transmission-oil-pump-rebuid.html

Martin

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MAVA

· #6 · Dec 12, 2013

Corey,

I drove for about a year with no reverse, but finally one visiting in Livermore. I got stuck, and it took me half hour to move the W140, and that was it...

Now, my reverse went from working to this roller coaster sound, and then nothing after it warmed up. "Per" the third-party service manual I had the classic lip-seal failure.

Read this old thread below, but download master.pdf on post 26, and look at the trouble shooting section..

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/1407863-no-reverse-jerks-reverse-when-cold.html

Now, The poster-dapet07. Had the same thing I had. In post 15 with the three pictures. The picture with part facing down, and the six legs up. The shinny points on the inside are because of the roller-coaster sound-the clutch pack is hitting the part.

Post 22 are the reverse clutches, and the clutch where his right thumb is at is very worn as mine were the same because the lines are gone like the ones from his left thumb.

Again, I'm not there. This is a thread about the 722.5, but this is common to 722.3-772.5 as the internal parts are the same with both transmissions.

Best of luck,

MArtin

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