I was able to get the CPO +24 for about 25% discount. They probably still made a killing....
As for negotiation, you really don't need to document your offer. Just make them a fair offer and stand your ground. The best negotiating tactic is when you're still about $1000 apart, you politely say "I'll think about it and get back to you." Then start leaving.
The rule of car sales is to not let the customer leave the building without signing something. The more time you spend with the sales staff, the worse they'll want the deal, so make sure you spend some time: test driving, asking the service department for records, etc...
As a starting offer, go near Edmunds.com wholesale. That's what they have (or probably less) in the car.
Good luck.
As for negotiation, you really don't need to document your offer. Just make them a fair offer and stand your ground. The best negotiating tactic is when you're still about $1000 apart, you politely say "I'll think about it and get back to you." Then start leaving.
The rule of car sales is to not let the customer leave the building without signing something. The more time you spend with the sales staff, the worse they'll want the deal, so make sure you spend some time: test driving, asking the service department for records, etc...
As a starting offer, go near Edmunds.com wholesale. That's what they have (or probably less) in the car.
Good luck.