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Hello.
I need to change the Front and Rear Brake Pads on my SLK 350 2005 171.456
After a lot of reading I found out this things:

1) Ceramic, Carbon Ceramic, Kevral Ceramic Pads are good while hot and not while cold but they redux dust till 90%. Usually they star to whistle like a train.

2) Ferro-Carbon are better cold and good hot. Dust is much more then normal. No whistle.

So I looked around.

I found many brands and I decide to pick one.

I read a lot about PAGID, TAROX, EBC, AXXIS, AKEBONO, HAWKS, PORTERFIELD, BREMBO.

I found AXXIS and HAWKS to be interesting.

But I read a lot and I would like to go for HAWKS HPS.
They say will give 20 to 40% more stopping power from cold to hot!
That's what I'm looking for. Expecially while cold (i'm not tracking the car all days).

So I decide to write to HAWKS asking for the serial number to buy the right one for my car!

The replied to me:

Thank you for your inquiry. We currently do not manufacturer brake pads for your vehicle. We will look closely for further demand to determine if/when we will begin production. I recommend that you check back with me in 10-12 weeks so that I can give you a more definitive timeline.

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That surprised me a little.

I provide them with a MB Part numbers of my brake pads F&R.

Front: A 004 420 05 20

Rear: A 003 420 28 20

But nothing.
So I went to the Hawks website to search around and I found a Car Selector.

I selected Mercedes Benz
Then Year 2005
and a little list came out:

C 230
C 240
C 320
C 55 AMG

CLK 320
CLK 500
CLK 55 AMG

E 500

G 500

ML 350

S 430
S 500
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If I look at 2006 i found many other cars like a CLK 350!
That should be exactly the same as SLK 350 components.

As far as I know the SLK 350 use same brake pads of many other W series.

I went to the MB garage today and they told me the front pad for my car are A 004 420 90 20 that seems to be in many cases a replaced part number for the 05 20.

Do you know if the A 004 420 90 20 is the same as A 004 420 05 20?

I found reading into EPCnet that the following cars are provided with 05 20:

W203-------------
C 180 Komp
C200 CDI
C 200 CGI Komp
C 200 Komp
C 220 CDI
C 230 Komp
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W209----------

CLK 320 CDI
CLK 350
CLK 500

W211--------------

E 200 Komp
E 230
E 270 CDI
E 280 CDI
E 300 Bluetec
E 320
E 320 CDI
E 250 CGI
E 500

W215------------------

CL 500
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W219---------

CLS 320 CDI
CLS 350
CLS 350 CGI
CLS 500
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W220---------

S 280 switched with A 004 420 90 20
S 320 switched with A 004 420 90 20
S 320 CDI switched with A 004 420 90 20
S 350 switched with A 004 420 90 20
S 400 CDI switched with A 004 420 90 20
S 430 switched with A 004 420 90 20
S 500 switched with A 004 420 90 20

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W230---------------------------

SL 500 switched with A 004 420 90 20

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So I started to think that the 90 20 is the same as 05 20.
Can you confirm this?

In this case I'll try to get a E500 or a CLK or a CLK 350 2006.

Hope you can help me with the serial swap and to choose the right Brake Pads.

BTW I'll also change the stock brake lines with stainless steel brake lines from Magnum I guess.

What do you think about all I wrote?

Thank You for your help. ;)
 

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Does anyone know it the Brake Pads from U.S.A C350 version A 003 420 6020 U.S. Version (494) are the same of the European Version A 004 420 9020?

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I think then I'll go with EBC Yellowstuff Pads.

I got the serials for those pads for my SLK 350.

They are:

Front: DP41363R
Rear: DP41441R

They will cost me 255 Euro.
90 Euro more then stock.
 

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The Axxis Ultimates are great pads, as are the Akebonos, but know that when you put a harder pad on it will wear out your rotor much faster. I've worn my (then new) rotors completely out on a set of Ultimates.

Also, don't be too fooled by the improvement in stopping power from cold to hot. What that may mean is that on a cold rainy day your brakes will completely SUCK and you might never get them hot enough to get that increase. And the increase might only take you to what you get with stock MB pads, which are pretty good but dusty. MB worked hard to develop OEM pad compounds that work well across a broad range of temperatures and conditions and it's hard to improve on what they did without a corresponding loss elsewhere.

Take care and enjoy the ride,
Greg
 

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GeeJay statistically speaking one person that just "don't like the EBC Yellow" does not make any significant variation in the hundred persons telling they are the best in fading and cold bite toghether.

If you choose something different they have no cold bite or they have fading or they have price that is like to buy 10 stock pads.

So I thank you for addressing me to that post, but since I like to know opinion based on technical knowledge and specific details about why they work or they don't, I thing just telling "EBC=sh!t" it is not enough!
Anyone who have a specific opinion about thech stuff should be at least full of details and spec to show a "scientific" opinion.

I did not read any comparison about material, fading, cold and hot bite, dust, rotor friedliness, etc. So how can I come up and say "Pizza Sh!t" when maybe my last pizza was cold and was coocked 2 weeks ago and it was with no oil and salt??

Hope you understand my opinion since my english is not the best you can find around :D
 

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Hey no worries, I have no opinion about this but was aware of this other thread that I thought you might wish to see.

Whatever....

Cheers!
 

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Thank You GeeJay.
I mean it.. but.. I can tell you what is my opinion in a few days since I'll test my Yellowstuff brakepads with my brand new Stainless Steel brake lines just installed and my special brake oil installed and fixed today.
:)
Stay tuned. ;)
 

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I think then I'll go with EBC Yellowstuff Pads.

I got the serials for those pads for my SLK 350.

They are:

Front: DP41363R
Rear: DP41441R

They will cost me 255 Euro.
90 Euro more then stock.
I've used EBC 'Red Stuff' pads and EBC vented discs (rotors) all-round on a previous car (Jaguar X-Type) and I was never entirely happy with them. I experienced an annoying 'rubbing noise' which did get better but never completely disappeared (even after 5K). I didn't find EBC any better than the original parts (in terms of stopping power) either. So, I'd pay the extra and get GENUINE parts.
 

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Really? Where did you find them?
I searched a lot for my 350 but nobody could find them.
 

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Hi,

I'm also searching pads for my C32AMG front brakes, but in Europe its not easy to find pads for it.

I found that Tarox have the "strada" (road & racing) pads ref# 1294 and I'm convinced on the product, but not easy to find them on sale!
EBC are everywhere on sale, but EBC "marketing" its not telling the technicall features of the product! I coulnd't find an coeficient graph anywhere about the working temperatures of the yellow or red ebc pad!
What brand of pad is this that don't tell everything!!!? They are good to sell to uninformed clients...

I send some emails to costumer suport to ask information and they didn't told me nothing, they also acused me of being working for another braking company!!!!

My only concern now is the tarox not be good enough on cold!
info: TAROX - brakepads - 112


Cixi, what are you thinking about the EBC yellows, any noise?

Thanks
 
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