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...out of curiosity was there a North American version of this car.
If so were they quick and reliable and how much would they be worth.
 

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2,229 2.3-16 were sold in the US by Mercedes Benz of North America during the model years 1986 and 1987 only.

The US versions generally had lower HP than the rest of the world due to emissions tuning; had the US headlights and US HVAC system. The bodykit was identical to the rest of the world, including the extra wide space for the front plate. Being a US model, it was only brought over "fully loaded" with a/c, leather interior, power windows, sunroof and the like, resulting in a sticker price of $35,400 and $40,300 during the two year sales period.
 

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2,229 2.3-16 were sold in the US by Mercedes Benz of North America during the model years 1986 and 1987 only.

The US versions generally had lower HP than the rest of the world due to emissions tuning; had the US headlights and US HVAC system. The bodykit was identical to the rest of the world, including the extra wide space for the front plate. Being a US model, it was only brought over "fully loaded" with a/c, leather interior, power windows, sunroof and the like, resulting in a sticker price of $35,400 and $40,300 during the two year sales period.
Thanks for the response. So I assume this is a rare car in North America.
...would this be a collector.
 

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While not common, the 2.3-16 in the US is not truly "rare." For instance, fewer 190D 2.5 Turbo versions were sold (1,169) during the single year (1987) it was available in the US. There were only 700 1993 2.6L Limited Editions sold, making them one of the rarest US variants.

Recent articles in motoring press speculate that the 2.3-16 has a high probability of obtaining a modest degree of collector status, which is unusual for a saloon/sedan. Being a more performance oriented model, it is often mentioned, along with the W124 500E, as having a more interesting background, smaller production and collector potential.

The real problem is that these models, both the 2.3-16 and 500E required a higher level of maintenance, which subsequent owners typically neglected since they generally bought the cars at a substantial discount. Deferred maintenance on these vehicles accelerates their decline.

You'll also find that many of them have been subject to "owner tuning" with mixed results.
 

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While not common, the 2.3-16 in the US is not truly "rare." For instance, fewer 190D 2.5 Turbo versions were sold (1,169) during the single year (1987) it was available in the US. There were only 700 1993 2.6L Limited Editions sold, making them one of the rarest US variants.

Recent articles in motoring press speculate that the 2.3-16 has a high probability of obtaining a modest degree of collector status, which is unusual for a saloon/sedan. Being a more performance oriented model, it is often mentioned, along with the W124 500E, as having a more interesting background, smaller production and collector potential.

The real problem is that these models, both the 2.3-16 and 500E required a higher level of maintenance, which subsequent owners typically neglected since they generally bought the cars at a substantial discount. Deferred maintenance on these vehicles accelerates their decline.

You'll also find that many of them have been subject to "owner tuning" with mixed results.
hmmm good info, thanks. I wish I could find one in good shape...I will do my research and check it out...tks again.
 

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Brand New Mercedes 190E 2.3-16 Only Eight Thousand Miles
This car was bought new at Mercedes of Manhattan, in 1986 and was stored in a garage in New York City, In Feb. of 88 MOM serviced and performed a oil chang at 6,000 miles,( Sticker is still in the Door Jamb) That was the last trip this car ever made. Owner died in 1988 and car sat in heated storage for 20 years. We have clean title and will sell to the best reasonable offer. The present milage is Eight thousand and eighty four miles from new, For all intent and purposes this is a new car. Only 2,000 of these Hot Rods were built, and I doubt you will find one with this low milage anywhere. Black Pearl exterior, with all original paint, ( some scratches from long term storage) original factory P-6 Pirelli's, beautiful rims, (all 5 are great) unmarked areo package(factory), MINT interior, and I challenge anyone to find one better, not a stitch out of place. Factory mats as new, Dash, wood, rubber, all a 10 out of ten. Jet Black factory Leather without a mark, Pristine trunk, spare tools, first aid kit, all as it was delivered. Car was removed from storage and serviced, with new rotors and calipers,(rears) oils, fluids, tune up ect, ect. Runs and drives like new, Powerful and handles like a New Mercedes should. The car is simply amazing, and the new owner will own a very unique and extremely rare beast. The car is located in New York City, and is available immediatly. Call for further details, questions or to see. 646-744-5757, or e-mail [email protected] Open to interesti
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While not common, the 2.3-16 in the US is not truly "rare." For instance, fewer 190D 2.5 Turbo versions were sold (1,169) during the single year (1987) it was available in the US.
My question: What is the collectability of the 190D 2.5 Turbo? Having no knowledge of the rarity, bought one of these for my son two years ago ($800 for a 135k mileage car). Typical cracked dash and some rusting at the jack points (not horrific yet), but, otherwise a pretty solid car. Shortly after buying it, I found out these were low production cars, and told my son he might want to hang onto it and keep this one in good shape.

Also, is 1,169 the total production run? And why was it produced for only one year?

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I believe the 2.5TD is going to be a quirky collectible because . . .

1) It's a diesel;
2) It's turbocharged and the performance is acceptable;
3) Low production numbers

They were only sold in the US in 1987 for nearly $30K brand new.
That year, only 1349 were built, so the US got most of that year's production

However, the rest of the world continued to get them till 1993, with a total production run of 20,435 cars worldwide.
 

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I believe the 2.5TD is going to be a quirky collectible because . . .

1) It's a diesel;
2) It's turbocharged and the performance is acceptable;
3) Low production numbers

They were only sold in the US in 1987 for nearly $30K brand new.
That year, only 1349 were built, so the US got most of that year's production

However, the rest of the world continued to get them till 1993, with a total production run of 20,435 cars worldwide.
The Turbo was made until '93? I didn't realize that--I thought they only made it in '87-'88. It's certainly an interesting car--and that engine seems like it just wants to run and run and run.........
 

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Yes - there was a NAM 190E 2.3-16

...out of curiosity was there a North American version of this car.
If so were they quick and reliable and how much would they be worth.
The U.S. spec cars were imported in two model years - 1986 and 1987. There were only minor differences between the 1986 and 1987 models. Depending on the source of the information, the total U.S. sales were between 1800 and 2200 cars in those two model years - probably because of the price premium over other models. The manual transmission may also have played a role in keeping sales low, but sales of automatic transmission-equipped 1987 190E 2.3-16s were low - this may be the rarest 190E 2.3-16 variant. The M102-983 engine in U.S. spec cars had about 167 horsepower - a little less than the European cars but more than the six-cylinder 190E 2.6 (first imported in 1987). The later 190E 2.5-16, Evo I and Evo II models were never available in a U.S. spec version. Private individuals did import and federalize 190E 2.3-16 cars. I know of only one federalized Evo car.

Prices vary. Drivable cars in reasonably good condition (minor cosmetic issues), with all the body kit present, an intact interior, and reasonable mileage (100,000 - 180,000) can be found for about $3,000. Depending on condition and mileage, prices can go a lot higher - $25,000 is not unheard of for a car in excellent/like new condition with under 30,000 miles. Cars with missing parts, cars that are not running or that have body/interior damage can sell for as little as $300. Beware of "fixer uppers" - parts are getting harder to find and can be VERY expensive. Prices for federalized Euro models tend to be lower than pure U.S. spec cars.
 
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