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Why didn't we do this before? My father and I where having a conversation and he brought up the fact that when he was younger and lived in Australia bus engines ran off water rather than gas. I was in total disbelief until i went online and found the video clips. WOW! Turns out cars do run off water but out government hides that information from us. If you could get from California to New York on one tank of gas at 5 cents a gallon wouldn't you drive a water car? I guess thats the same reason the oil companies don't allow the USA to have them. I mean we just BOBMED a whole country for oil, think about it. It turns out they even a KIT they sell that can be installed in any car or truck for about $1,500 that will allow you to run off water. BMW has a 740 that runs completely of water already. I will post pictures later, I hope i dont get shot for sharing this information.. The last few people who tried bringing a water car into the USA did.
 

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TheGodfather said:
I think the BMW you are talking about runs on some sort of alcohol, I have heard of semi- hydrogen ones as well and they are hundreds of thousands of dollars (possibly millions), one of a kind.

How about you purchase this 1,500 kit and see what happens.
here is the link and the video footage taken by the news. and also a few cars already in production.



http://waterpoweredcar.com/

here is the video link: http://www.waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/Video/NewsReport.wmv


ENJOY..
 

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WOW! Let me know if this pans out...gas prices are $3.20 for premium here right now.....I think i'd pay $5000 for teh conversion at this point! :)
 

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that video news story is from the 80's or something. edit: nm saw the text it says 1995

Hydrogen fuel cell cars are no secret, except the ones that are real are super expensive, and they have the problem of blowing up.

In up in british columbia they have hydrogen refueling stations in the making.
 

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It takes more energy to get hydrogen out of water than hydrogen has in it...
Same thing with ethinol. It takes more energy to produse ethinol but what ever there is always someone who will believe it...
 

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Speaking with the benefit of a college degree in Chemistry, I assure you that this is bulls**t and you are just making yourself look silly.

Have you ever taken a class in physics or chemistry?

DelJ




DETANE said:
Why didn't we do this before? My father and I where having a conversation and he brought up the fact that when he was younger and lived in Australia bus engines ran off water rather than gas. I was in total disbelief until i went online and found the video clips. WOW! ...
 

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well, all I think this is, is this guy has renamed a process everyone already knows about as just simply a car that runs on water...

As far as I know it does not really run on water but rather, hydrogen, taken from water through electrolysis??

This issue is like people believing perpetual motion machines and free energy...
 

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Did you notice that the raving lunatic that runs the site you linked to also believes the conspiracy theory that our government blew up the WTC?

I guess if you're going to believe one conspiracy theory you may as well believe them all.

Fuel-cell cars may be in our future, not so much as a replacement for gas, but because they burn clean. The only problem is the energy source used to release the hydrogen, because it doesn't make much sense to pollute the air with something to produce the energy to crack the molecule to release the hydrogen.

As technologies continue to improve, they may get something in the solar vein (roof panels?) that would generate the energy to crack the molecule, then we get the best of both worlds, so to speak. At that point the only concern will be people using fresh water, further depleting that supply. Of course is global warming continues maybe they'll figure out a way to use salt water, then we can keep from flooding as well. :)

Take care and enjoy the non-hydrogenated ride,
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Can I have some of the weed you are smoking. This idiotic liberal s**** is a round since the 70's (remember the last "oil" scare) and people still fall for this stuff...
 

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Duck and cover!!



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BMW has a 7-Series concept that runs on steam. Don't know if they made one to test it.
 

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dont know bout the whole water business...but the ethanol shit is legit...hence most if not all chevy's now run on e85 ethanol
 

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If news of the water-powered car has excited you, I can save you the time you would have wasted on further reading and research with this explanation. The energy it takes to break the hydrogen-oxygen bond to produce hydrogen fuel is more than the energy released when you burn the hydrogen.

This thread would have been more appropriate if started on April 1st.
 

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dont know bout the whole water business...but the ethanol shit is legit...hence most if not all chevy's now run on e85 ethanol
E85 fuel actually gives you decreased gas mileage. So unless the difference in E85 and gasoline is very high, don't waste your money. Our van is E85 capable, and there is an E85 pump a mile away, but we don't use it because there's not much in savings overall than if we stayed with regular.
 

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Good point

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E85 fuel actually gives you decreased gas mileage. So unless the difference in E85 and gasoline is very high, don't waste your money. Our van is E85 capable, and there is an E85 pump a mile away, but we don't use it because there's not much in savings overall than if we stayed with regular.
You bring up the exact issue. Money. Americans when hard pressed are surely about a healthier enviroment but they don't care if its an oil- corn- hydrogen- or whatever-based fuel they pump into their automobiles. It could be corn syrup, marshmellows, or peanut butter. All that matters at the end of the day is the cost. And nothing today beats good ol' petroleum. Pick up the last 24 months or so of Car and Driver and just read articles by Csere and Bedard if you want a rational numbers and a science-based $$$ viewpoint on global warming, fuel use, government idiocy, et al. I'm not saying as a society that we shouldn't some day make the heavy down-payment for new technology to lead us to the (what, Grandpa, there was a product called gasoline?) point of reduced CO2 emissions. The fact is corporations are chasing the money to come up with alternative solutions. I'm a total free enterprise [email protected]#$ gov't subsidies, but if the holy graille does exist for future transportation and young scientists can discover it--regardless of their funding source--I'm all for change. But the current solutions do not work--from an economic standpoint. We ain't there yet. But in the next 50 years there will be an alternative to oil. But you can pry it out of my cold dead hands until then.
 

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The funny thing is

There is already us patent on this cell. And yes it works and produces more energy than what it consumes. LOL IT doesn't take a chemist to look it up.lol

And yes I am smoking some Good [email protected]#T!, (OG KUSH).

I remember when idiots who were supposed to be educated thought the world was flat.
Then I remembered that the same idiots once on the new land also thought the sun revolved around the earth. Same Guys also thought you would blast into the future is you drove your car past 60mph. Lets get real guys this is 2010, ??? yes. If you know enough of your history you would know America took a few years to decide which calendar to go by. But aside from that why is everybody making jokes??
I never disrespect anybody on here, why all the hate? If you really looked at the site you would have seen the buggy ran on water (HYDRO) separated from the water and no it did not blow up. I travel a lot and the cars in Columbia run of sugar cane, We call it something else over in the USA. I know its not news that we have hydrogen power.lol

caps.......

California Hydrogen

caps....

. Im no Harvard Man but DIDN'T BUSH FIx the elections? LOL
 

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Detane,

One can patent just about anything. I myself have a US patent. Big deal. A patent is only worth what it is.

Aside from a few experimental units, the metro buses in southern California run on LNG, not hydrogen.

There is a portion of the population that actually believes the stories in the National Enquirer and other tabloids. It appears that you fall into this group.

I must say that you are right about one thing: you are definitely no Harvard man.

DelJ




DETANE said:
There is already us patent on this cell. And yes it works and produces more energy than what it consumes. LOL IT doesn't take a chemist to look it up.lol

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WHY DO METRO BUSES RUN ON HYDROGEN IF ITS SO EXPENSIVE?...

NEGATIVE THINKING GETS THE WORLD NO WHERE FAST. Im no Harvard Man ....
 

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DelJ said:
Detane,

One can patent just about anything. I myself have a US patent. Big deal. A patent is only worth what it is.

Aside from a few experimental units, the metro buses in southern California run on LPG, not hydrogen.

There is a portion of the population that actually believes the stories in the National Enquirer and other tabloids. It appears that you fall into this group.

I must say that you are right about one thing: you are definitely no Harvard man.

DelJ
Youre both wrong, Metro buses in LA run on CNG. Compressed Natural GAS!!! And a few older buses which still runs on diesel. Thank you.
 
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