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This thread picks up where the "Restoring an 8,000 mile 2.3-16" left off.

Two years have passed since the 16v was returned to the road. A number of repairs were done and several repairs are needed to keep the car going.

The car added 6,000 more miles and sits in the driveway with 14,619 miles. There were no break downs. The car traveled to Doylestown, PA twice, upstate New York several times (Nyack, Nanuet, Poughkeepsie) and all around New York City.

This thread will chronicle all maintenance and repairs from now on.
 

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On September 19, 2009, the 16v had its oil pan gasket and front main crank seal replaced due to leakage.

These replacements were effective.
 

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just out of curiosity, how much did that run to get done? did they pull the engine? i'm getting that and valve seals replaced when i get home
 

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scottx Only 8k miles? Car must be really nice! Pictures?!

There was a detailed thread in 2008 that showed the complete restoration.

Turnpike just out of curiosity, how much did that run to get done? did they pull the engine?

The total repair cost is ongoing. The motor is original in need of no work except for the fuel distributor and a fuel line.
 

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My apologies for remaining out of view for two years.

My mother suddenly became ill and we had no idea what happened. I helped ferry her to various hospitals and sat through tests with her. She lost 100 lbs in two years while physicians all said she was "fine". She died in January 2010 .

Then, in 2010, I restored my old piano from February, 2010 through June, 2010.

Now I can get back to the 16v.
 

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One discovery I made very long ago is that the Mercedes emergency roadside phone number sticker was pasted inside the glove box door.

When I examined the driver's side vanity mirror, I realized what happened.

The first owner may not have liked the sticker. He tore it off and stuck on the inside of the glove box door. In doing so, he broke the vanity mirror flap. When the visor goes down to block the sun, the vanity flap hangs down. Tucking it up inside the visor hides the damage.

I saw this and figured I could get to it "whenever".
 

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This is another minor flaw.

After 22 years in storage, some of the rubber parts dried up and failed.

This is one of them, the slider handle with the white blower position indicator stripe. Here, the body of the handle dried to a point that removing it broke off one side. A $5 replacement looks perfect.
 

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This is another minor flaw.

After 22 years in storage, some of the rubber parts dried up and failed.

This is one of them, the slider handle with the white blower position indicator stripe. Here, the body of the handle dried to a point that removing it broke off one side. A $5 replacement looks perfect.
I think my memory is back to your car ,,,8K miles barn found right ???
aging rubber seals, gaskets, plastic parts sadly go just like human but I'm glad to see your car look happy now..:thumbsup:
 

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... That piano looks amazing! How many hours did you spend on the piano?
I would estimate roughly 380 hours to bring the instrument back.

Many hours were saved because the action was in nearly new condition despite heavy use over 40 years. Only the hammers needed new pads and several bushings had to be replaced. The action was regulated and voicing was "out of the package".

The bulk of the work was restringing and replacing pins and their bushings in the pin block. The harp was regilded and the case was repainted and wet brilloed for the satin look.

Now I can return to the 16v.
 

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Two additional issues popped up.

One was the front left side bolt covers of the front seats.

The front seat bolt covers costing $2 each appear to have been installed improperly at the factory. Plastic tangs were not inserted into the seat rails and were bent aside. The covers kept sliding off. Two new ones fixed the problem.

At the jack points, I replaced all 4 rubber pads because the old ones were dry and brittle. I found surface rust around their mount points at the rear wheel well area. It appears that moisture got in between the undercoat and the body metal but I found no perforations. These tests were done when I bought the car. It looks worse than it is. Soon, I will wire brush these areas and replace the undercoat.
 

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Simply awesome!

(the piano and the 16v!!!)
 

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I am glad you enjoy the photos of the car.

Another hang up I spotted when the car was completed was the black rtv used by the glazier to install the windshield.

I'll get around to reinstalling it correctly and overlook the gooped up look past the A pillar on the port side.
 

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lomtevas - that is one sweet machine, wish i got to see it before i moved out of Forest Hills. Job relocated to Syracuse. My 190 is still running like a champ, the last major fix was the water pump that you assisted me with. The story of your car is nothing short of amazing! Keep up the good work!
 

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My 1990 190E 2.3 has doen 27,000 miles or around 1,350 per year.

But as it was used as a second car for the last 15 years and did about 500 miles per year and driven about once per month - it has not deterioration of anything.
Even exhaust is original.

Only rubber bit that went bad was engine mounts. and nor rubber belt tensioner has failed. But thats it.

No rust or anything.
 

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Nice car man.. Where did you find that thing? Is it a manual?
This car appeared on several online classified sites using the photo below. Perhaps I saw it on Craigslist or someone phoned me to tell me about it. I was overdue for a car restoration project and I wanted a new 16v to do. This car was being stored under a car cover in a parking lot in the Bronx where this photo was taken. When the seller first pulled away the car cover from the front of the car, I saw a new 16v looking at me. It had its share of damage due to years of non-use, but that's exactly what I wanted to restore.

So I bought it and restored it. This is the 5-speed 16v in paint code 199 (blauschwartz) with the anthracite leather interior. I made a thread here in 2008 that chronicled the restoration. Search for Restoring an "8,000 Mile 2.3-16". In retrospect, the car looks better than it would have coming out of the dealership in December, 1985.
 

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Now that the weather is back on track, it's time to break out the 16v for its running season.

The car spent the winter in its garage and was rolled out at least twice each month from November through January for a run. Motor oil and filter, air filter and all fluids are at the three year mark and will be changed as the months proceed.

The photos reveal that the paint has cured well and still looks very solid. Errors mentioned in previous posts will be tackled this year.

I also spotted a bouncing fuel gauge. I'll check the connection to the sender when the weather warms up.

The headlights and fog lights are the original 1986 lamp units. That'll suck when they blow out and I have to replace them with 2011 substitutes. The entire clutch mechanism is also the 1986 original.

I ran the car today and thought the car to be in super shape.
 

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