Yes

 

Go for it. Just make sure to get everything from the ECU, transmission, rear diff and related parts that make the V8 cars stronger than the V6 cars to be reliable with the extra V8 power.

 

Here's the thing. The 5.4 liter is a direct swap into the e500. It's the same m113 motor, just bored out and different cams ( factory tuned). I wouldn't have to worry about any of that if I just ponied up and bought the E 500. I don't think any of the electronics would need to be changed, yes of course I would get it tuned but I think that is all it would need. You can find some decent shape 5.4 liter AMG engines that go for 1500-1800. So say 2k, plus installation. But I don't think a shop would charge that much to essentially take out a motor and just put it back in again. Maybe 1k at most? Anyone have any experience with shop prices when it comes to this?

I could have a sick AMG powered 4matic wagon! How cool would that be!? I would put headers on the 5.4 while it is out of the car just to avoid having to pay more in the future for installing that. Not to mention more powah!

Can someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong with anything I have just said.

Matt

 

When I was 18 I had a 68 Impala wagon with a cammed and dual carbed 327 Turbofire that beat every Z28, Trans Am and Mustang on the road, it was way kool.

 

Mattrox - the engine swap you mention is a lot easier said than done, lots of other variables to consider that go along with the M113 K motor. Also, the 5.5L Kompressor engine is not a bored out E500 motor, It uses a different forged steel crank for a longer stroke, different rods, pistons, cams, control unit, unique motor mounts, etc. etc. I could go on. My point is that in the end it would probably be more cost effective and save you lots of hours to just find a clean used one. Besides an E500 wagon, with a chip and exhaust would be no slouch of a car, probably more reliable to boot.
My 2 cents. Cheers.

 

I never mentioned a K, never brought up the M113K. I am referring to the M113 5.4 NA from the W210 AMG. Which I believe is just about the same engine as the 500 with bored cylinders and a longer stroke. Which is why it has been a huge favorite in the w202 c43 AMG forum for its ease of swappability with being completely plug and play. I'm hoping it's the same for the e500.

 

Go for it Mattrox, blaze the trails and show us commoners how its done:grin

 

Go for it Mattrox, blaze the trails and show us commoners how its done

Thanks for the enthusiasm man! I'm just a commoner myself with a vision of owning a real sleeper wagon like you did.

:

I guess I'm just looking for specific information that not many people (If any) know...

My quest continues.

 

I just passed on an E63 wagon for $17k with 47,000 miles.

Why would I do that? I live in the ice and snow belt and it is not 4Matic. It is wickedly fast car by any standard, but I have to able to drive it year round and even
with dedicated snow tires the owner told me it is a handful in anything more than heavy rain.

So a 5.4 M113 or a full AMG 6.3 V8? It is a no brainer. Go for the E63. It will cost less in the long run seeing as E63 prices keep dropping.

 

Noodles where/when did you find that wagon? Still available?

 

It got snatched up by somebody from IL. If they had made them in 4matic it would be in my garage.

 

Did you ever find you answer here? I’ve been searching for very similar info. I’m looking to getting a m113 to replace my old 112. It’s endured 302k mi and still runs but it needs the timing redone on it. I figure I’d rather swap in a more powerful engine (5.0l) and do a few external mods for a few extra ponies. My concern is the electronics, are they plug and play as well or will I need to recode the ecu at all? I don’t mean for this to be redundant.

 

The forum section archives have a wealth of DIY / technical information.
When researching an issue in your section / before posting, you can also Search the
W211 E-Class forum archives via the 'Search Community' box on top..

 

Thanks teutone, I appreciate the advice

 

It's much cheaper to just sell the 320 and get an E500.
Unless you can do all the work. The wiring harness, ECU,
EIS, Keys and other items make it a very time consuming
and costly endeavor.

 

It’s more than just buying a car to me, that’s the easy way out, I like chanelling my inner scientist. This is exactly how Mercedes made it. You have to be a scientist to build your dream Benz. Thanks for the advice no doubt