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We had a club drive last Sunday which used some great twisty, hilly, "drivers" roads. On these sections there was only me (with wife and 2 kids) in my 190E 2.3 Sportline manual and another member (with his wife but empty back seat) in his 2.3-16 following me. Obviously he could haul me in on the uphill sections but in the twisty bits there was nothing in it. He admitted he had the advantage of having me in front "showing him the way". He commented on watching my rear suspension work. It was great fun and the Sportline handling is superb. It sits so flat in the corners and goes exactly where you point it. Only my brakes (after-market pads) let things down a bit. Towards the bottom of a steep and windy (2nd and 3rd gear) mountain pass the brakes which had been strong suddenly began to squeal and faded (and got very smelly). His 2.3-16 with its slightly larger brakes and OEM pads suffered no fade. In all, a fun "spirited" drive.
 

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Brakes seem to be a weak spot on many Mercedes cars............

Even the AMG cars with their massive brakes have lost their grip at times.
Here in the States at an event called "The AMG Challange" Mercedes had to pull a C 32 and an SLK 32 off the line because of brake failure.
Brakes are the other half of the power equation.
 

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I would add to that comment that it's brakes & tires, since the tires play a big role in...

I would add to that comment that it's brakes & tires, since the tires play a big role in the stopping. Luckily for us, the W201 has a pretty good brake upgrade path . . . the W124 400E, four piston ATE fronts and rears, a direct bolt on upgrade. With more work, AMG C32 front brakes have been fitted to the W201 as well.
 

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Re: I would add to that comment that it's brakes & tires, since the tires play a big role in

I would add to that comment that it's brakes & tires, since the tires play a big role in the stopping. Luckily for us, the W201 has a pretty good brake upgrade path . . . the W124 400E, four piston ATE fronts and rears, a direct bolt on upgrade. With more work, AMG C32 front brakes have been fitted to the W201 as well.
I have asked this question on another forum. Can the W201 fit the 500E brake set-up? I know of some 400E guys that were doing the "500E" upgrade to THEIR cars.

So, if 400E=190E (bolt on) and 500E=400E (bolt on)
does 500E=190E (bolt on)?

Any math guys out there?

Dave
2.3-16v, 500E
 

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