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Hi!
As I've already bought the US-headlights, some new bumper shock absorbers I am looking for someone who wants to exchange his US bumpers witch the Euro Bumpers.
I've got the coupe/280 front and rear bumper, all the holders and rubbers.
There were two who wanted to make an exchange but it's over one year since they promise to do it. I don't want to wait no longer.
One of them even got my Euro headlamps for free but never sent me his...
Now I am looking for the person who I can trust and rely on.
I decided to make a toppic, that anyone can see the results :)
I have also the French headlights with the yellow fog lights and the vacuum regulation of course - from the 3rd serie.
There is moderator who knows me personally (I can write on PM who is it).
There is one condition: I'll send the bumpers,holders,rubbers, headlights, corner lights ONLY after I'll got the US parts in exchange first.
If there is anyone who wants to risk, please do not hestitate to ask :D
/Daniel
 

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What do you mean?
If it's permitted to install it in Poland or if the Euro body od 123 is different to install it?
I think, it's not a big problem in both situations.
 

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European models in standard form only have ONE mounting point per side in the rear. The US models have THREE per side (6 total in the rear), plus the holes to allow the bumper shock absorbers to install into.

There's an ongoing thread here regarding US bumpers to be mounted on Euro cars:

1984 300TD euro reverse light weirdness - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes ShopForum

Standard US mounts:



Standard Euro mounts:



Standard Euro mounts equipped with a tow hitch:



You will have to get the proper threads for the 17mm nuts that hold the US bumpers in place, plus drill holes on the chassis to accommodate the US bumper shocks and extra threads.
 

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I was forced to install US bumpers on my old Euro 280E years back. The only problem was the rear where the bumper shock mounted. Easily modified with a hole saw and if I remember correctly, hole relocation on the rear quarter panel plus small holes for the trim along the top.
 

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Nutz 4 Benz, why were you forced to put US bumpers on?:wtf: I have only seen a couple euro models in the US with us bumpers on them but that was because they were wrecked at some point in the past and had the wrong bumpers put on them.
 

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The Euro bumpers were FUBAR due to rust and I had a complete spare 79 US 300D with a good body, blown engine.
 

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I think that the problem is that postage for sending bumpers to poland is more than you understand. It is not cost effective. You can buy US bumpers in California for about $50 each, but the shipping to Poland could be many hundreds of dollars.
 

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Pm sent..
 

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Discussion Starter #12
Thanks MBeige for the tips.
As I must exchange the butt in my coupe (the climate in Poland helps the rust to come earlier) I will have it on the table:


So I could drill it.
Now I have the trailling coupling installed, so I made holders in the frame's channel box like the US bumpers holders. The problem is I will have to cancel the coupling as it will not fit to install both (the trailing coupling and the bumper).
Summing up: From over twenty 123s (coupes) which I had (1,2, and 3 series) none of them had the mounts for US bumpers on the rear.
The front mount should not be a big problem too as the frame's channel box is opened in my car.


I'll add the photos of the headlamps later, as I must put them together. The French ones are still mounted on my coupe which is in winter sleep now.
 

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I will also upgrade my US headlamps with H4 bulbs. The cost of pair is $30. I'll use this lens:
 

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I'm still at a loss as to how you ship a bumper between the US and Poland. I have single-piece 123 bumpers (two of them) for sedans, and I think I could sell them in the US with shipping for less than it would cost to ship them to poland. The headlights however are much more interesting....
 

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update:
Because euroamg promised to check the shipping again and again deceiving me, I offer an exchange once again: I can send my low and high specs Euro/French and the coupe/sedan bumpers in exchange for complete front and rear bumper.
 

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The bumpers with the rubber and shocks weigh in at 30 lbs, 12" x 8" x 65" (approximate size and weight for each). The price to ship One Bumper to Warsaw Poland. (Didn't see what city you are in.)
UPS - $976 each
FedEx - $973 each

I'd say it's not worth the effort.

Is there an easily accessible shipper that will do it for less?
 
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