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What do I need to know about the C280? How reliable is it?

More specifically does it have a timing belt or timing chain? If belt how often should it be replaced?

Also does anyone know if wheels from a 2002 A4 will fit a 2006 C280?
 
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What do I need to know about the C280? How reliable is it?

More specifically does it have a timing belt or timing chain? If belt how often should it be replaced?

Also does anyone know if wheels from a 2002 A4 will fit a 2006 C280?
Don't get a 2006, because those could have pricey balance shaft issues, most likely it will have a timing chain. Audi wheels will not fit a Mercedes I think, because of different bolt patterns and other parameters
 

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All modern US model MBZ's using timing chains, not belts. The early M272 V6 engines in the C230 (2006+ with V6, not the I4's from 2001-2005), C280, C300, and C350 may have defective timing gears forged onto the balance shaft. You can't go solely by production model year - you have to check the engine serial number. This can be done by VIN - post it here and those of us here have with access to EPC can give you engine serial number. Those through #468993 have the defective gears.

I don't know if those Audi wheels will fit or not. A coworker with a 2010 C300 just put wheels from a VW GTI on his car, and they fit perfectly. It all depends on the bolt spacing and offset.
 

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All modern US model MBZ's using timing chains, not belts. The early M272 V6 engines in the C230 (2006+ with V6, not the I4's from 2001-2005), C280, C300, and C350 may have defective timing gears forged onto the balance shaft. You can't go solely by production model year - you have to check the engine serial number. This can be done by VIN - post it here and those of us here have with access to EPC can give you engine serial number. Those through #468993 have the defective gears.

I don't know if those Audi wheels will fit or not. A coworker with a 2010 C300 just put wheels from a VW GTI on his car, and they fit perfectly. It all depends on the bolt spacing and offset.
WDBRF92H06F764996

Here is a second on I am considering.
WDBRF92H86F772196

Thanks for the help.
 

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OK, both of these C280 4MATIC's have affected M272 engines. WDBRF92H06F764996 is serial number 209572, and WDBRF92H86F772196 is serial number 230146.

As for being "certified", in order to qualify, the dealer must "Verify all recall and campaigns have been performed." Unfortunately, the balance shaft problem was not a recall nor a "campaign" - otherwise MBZ would have been paying to fix all of these engines, over half a million. The notification of the problem was issued as a TSB (technical service bulletin) which is simply a guide for mechanics to understand the repair for certain problems that might be difficult to diagnose. Of course if you buy one with a CPO warranty, it will cover the repair of this defect if it presents itself during the warranty period.
 

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Thanks for the info. I have passed on these cars. One more question. Can I assume the problem was fixed in 2007 models?

And what about 2005?
 
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Thanks for the info. I have passed on these cars. One more question. Can I assume the problem was fixed in 2007 models?

And what about 2005?
Most 2007 cars should not have it but maybe and 2005 they had the underpowered C240 which was later replaced in 2006 by the C280


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You cannot go by model year if the car has the M272 engine. In MY2005, they did not use the M272 in the C-Class, so those would be fine. Many MY2007 cars have M272 or M273 engines that fall into the serial number range. You're probably safe with a MY2008, but I'd check - just in case it was made in 2007. You have to remember that MBZ has factories all over the world, so there is no really direct correlation between build date and engine serial number.
 

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You cannot go by model year if the car has the M272 engine. In MY2005, they did not use the M272 in the C-Class, so those would be fine. Many MY2007 cars have M272 or M273 engines that fall into the serial number range. You're probably safe with a MY2008, but I'd check - just in case it was made in 2007. You have to remember that MBZ has factories all over the world, so there is no really direct correlation between build date and engine serial number.
Hi rudeney, I am looking for a 2006 C280 with almost 95000 miles on it. Can you please let me know if this has the issues which you mentioned above? The VIN for this vehicle is - WDBRF92H86F764406. Thank you :).
 

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Does that timing gear issue also effect e-class? If so can you check the following VIN: WDBUF82J85X175484

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The E-Class could also be affected because it used the M272 (E350) and M273 (E550). WDBUF82J85X175484 is an E320, with the 3.2l M112 V6, so it would not be affected.
 

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Hello Rodney,

I'm considering to buy a 2007 C280 Vin# WDBRF92H67F927913. Can you please advise if this car has the timing gear/shaft issue you stated in this thread?

Thanks,
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Hello Rodney,

I'm considering to buy a 2007 C280 Vin# WDBRF92H67F927913. Can you please advise if this car has the timing gear/shaft issue you stated in this thread?

Thanks,
Yogi
The engine in this car is not affected by the balance shaft issue.
 

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Thanks eric242340. This 2007 c280 car has 62000 miles on it. Any idea what could be the required maintenance (except of oil changes) for next 15000 to 20000 miles? I need to know about any big maintenance coming up in next 2 years.
 

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Thanks eric242340. This 2007 c280 car has 62000 miles on it. Any idea what could be the required maintenance (except of oil changes) for next 15000 to 20000 miles? I need to know about any big maintenance coming up in next 2 years.
Provided the transmission fluid was changed at the appropriate time then it will only be normal servicing.
 

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this is the vin for the c280 that im planing to buy WDBRF92H06F738933,can you tell me should i expect that balance shaft issue ?
 

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this is the vin for the c280 that im planing to buy WDBRF92H06F738933,can you tell me should i expect that balance shaft issue ?
Engine 272941 30 123840 Yes this is on the affected list of engines.
 
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