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Reno, thanks for the compliment. Took it to the Good Guys show today, and never went in. Right next door the MBCA was running an autocross event. It was a challenging course and I managed to log respectable lap times. I will say the 560SL handles really well and can be driven aggressively with ease. Got lots of compliments on the new interior. Yesterday MB was a featured marque at the Arthritis classic auto show and the guys said 50 Benz's showed up. I was sorry to miss it but it was a great weekend for anyone with a MB.
 

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The interior is very nice, as in about 9.7 on the WoW factor. The leather in my 560SL is reasonably new but when the original owner replaced the seat covers she did not have the padding replaced. I found this out on my first road trip when my bottom started talking to me. I am going to have new carpet installed in my car and the upholstery guy is going to put in new padding at that time, so hopefully that will make for a more comfortable highway ride.

Question about your wood. So, all you did was soak the burled wood in 100% acetone for 48 hours, and you got that? That is amazing. How did you come up with this approach?
 

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Sitting on,not in the car.

18. Added extra white padding between horsehair pad and springs corresponding to lumbar support (lower back).
19. All six locking clips must be secured.
20. Nice even line where new leather tucks into existing J-channel.
21. Added extra padding to seat bottoms.
22. Use contact cement to replicate prior glue points.
PanzerPuff,as no 21 alludes to you added extra padding to the seat bottoms. The set of seats I re dyed to black had been re upholstered ten years ago and are very firm. The old seats were very tired in all aspects as the previous owner (for 11yrs) was of rather large and heavy proportions. I'm 6 feet tall and now find the new seating position with the seat bottom all the way back to be quite uncomfortable and no amount of adjustments has helped. I know that the 560 has height adjustment but have you found the extra padding to be to your liking. Maybe I'm being a bit precious here but I like sitting in a car and not feel like I am sitting on the car. Any advice would be appreciated gentleman.
John
 

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Question about your wood. So, all you did was soak the burled wood in 100% acetone for 48 hours, and you got that? That is amazing. How did you come up with this approach?
There are many strings that recommend acetone, and others find scraping this delicate veneer is a dicey proposition. Search either "acetone" or "veneer" Here is a post by Mach4 on this subject.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-sl-slc-class/2062722-wood-refinishing-project.html If there are more comments about acetone I suggest they be posted to those strings, so this thread stays on the subject of seat upholstery.

PanzerPuff,as no 21 alludes to you added extra padding to the seat bottoms. The set of seats I re dyed to black had been re upholstered ten years ago and are very firm. The old seats were very tired in all aspects as the previous owner (for 11yrs) was of rather large and heavy proportions. I'm 6 feet tall and now find the new seating position with the seat bottom all the way back to be quite uncomfortable and no amount of adjustments has helped. I know that the 560 has height adjustment but have you found the extra padding to be to your liking. Maybe I'm being a bit precious here but I like sitting in a car and not feel like I am sitting on the car. Any advice would be appreciated gentleman. John
John, it seems your current situation is a pain in the butt. Or is it the lower back that needs support? I found stuffing more padding in the lumbar area to improve the comfort. But without specifics on what pains you, it is hard to recommend anything. Models prior to the 560 had height adjustments as well.
Perhaps you can try a foam pad or yoga mat that is temporarily but strategically placed in various positions. When you find the most comfortable placement stuff that amount or more in the same spot, but between the springs and the horsehair where it remains unseen.
 

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Thanks for your replies dugald and PanzerPuff,I ended up lowering the rear bolt position and am now a lot more comfortable. Ken I may still do the lower back padding as that is now the only thing I don't like about our 107 seats. :grin Thanks again for your learned advice gentleman.
 

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Thanks again for the tutorial. I have been looking for a 560 for some time, and have always thought I could muddle through putting on new leather if needed (most of the cars I have looked at have some kind of leather cracking, hole in the driver bolster etc). With your step by step, it will be super easy to tackle the project. Thanks.
 

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Rachel at Tops created a blog based on this string. I have no affiliation with Tops Online but obviously this is good publicity for them. If you have other good vendor experiences feel free to post them. TO Blog:
Customer Spotlight: DIY Tips for Replacing Seat Covers | TopsOnline Blog
Video: https://youtu.be/7BHO8W2qh-U

There are not many strings about fresh leather in the 107 roadster section. If you search the entire benzworld you will find many ideas. For ease of reference here are a few:

W123 Seat Upholstery - I'm determined to get the interior in black and looking good and not cracking. I found this guy on eBay who is selling MB-TEX upholstery cut and ... http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1531275-w123-seat-upholstery.html

Care of MB-Tex upholstery and dash, etc. - I have read where Lexol Vinylex and 303 Company products are supposed to be good for protecting both the upholstery and the dash, etc. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w212-e-class/1497748-care-mb-tex-upholstery-dash-etc.html

MB Tex upholstery Pros & Cons - Looking at a 2007 E350 with MB Tex interior, what if any are the problems? I have had leather for ever since 1980. Thanks in advance. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w211-e-class/1585240-mb-tex-upholstery-pros-cons.html

Best Upholstery Shop for torn E55 Seats? - I went to a local upholstery shop and the guy said it would be at least 3000$ to get them fixed and not even with the same materials! I want to ... http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e50-amg-e55-amg/2630538-best-upholstery-shop-torn-e55-seats.html

Pre made Upholstery for slc - I live in New Zealand and I was wondering if anyone knows the best place to buy the pre made upholstery for my car please? http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-sl-slc-class/2670410-pre-made-upholstery-slc.html

M-B Tex and Cloth Seat Upholstery for Euro SL's - I thought I would start a new thread about the pleated cloth and M-B Tex seat upholstery that is found in some of the ROTW SL's. Not commonly ... http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-sl-slc-class/1858522-m-b-tex-cloth-seat-upholstery.html

slk230 seat upholstery - Bought new upholstery for my wife's 2000 slk230. Supposed to be exactly the same as factory. Anyone have any experience installing them ... http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r170-slk-class/2326233-slk230-seat-upholstery.html

230TE Upholstery. - But try the usual upholstery specialists : Worldupholstery, Polstermanufactur, Autosattlerei-Artur, etc. Here's the one from my 230TE (yes, I also ... http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/2599634-230te-upholstery.html
 

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This really is first class work and information.
My seat bases are a tad tired, is there a supplier of the pad bases?
For the time being I'll clean and replace the MB Tex, it's in remarkable shape.
Apologies if asked previously.
 

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My seat bases are a tad tired, is there a supplier of the pad bases? For the time being I'll clean and replace the MB Tex, it's in remarkable shape. Apologies if asked previously.
Believe it or note the pad bases are still available from MB but as expected a bit pricey:
https://www.oediscountparts.com/parts/index.cfm?searchText=1079100250++&make=Mercedes-Benz&action=oePartSearch&siteid=215242
Quick Order
Part Number 1079100250
Part Name PAD,FRONT SE
MSRP $220.00
Core $0.00
Online Price $165.00
If it were me I would just cut foam our upholstery material to the desired shape. Good luck.
 

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You have to watch that Horsehair.... In 1942 a German officer in Prague is thought to have been killed by the horsehair from his car seat. Imagine the headlines. Mercedes 320 kills German Officer.... Well I am sure the grenade didn't help matters, it is suspected that he got some horsehair in his wound which caused septicemia. From what I read it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy... Reinhard Heydrich had been one of the Holocaust designers... (what an odd way of saying 'murdering bastard'). He had been attacked by some hapless secret agents and they made a mess of it, thankfully that old horse that had gone to the knackers yard was more use than suspected.. Personally I would have been happy if they had beat him to death with the horses hoofs.
 

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I loved your video Ken, I found it on YouTube before I found this thread. You crack me up with how rough you are taking stuff apart and throwing in the boxes :). I also dig your use of the free USPS flat rate boxes for paint and parts.

I have never done any interior work and I am actually contemplating the endeavor now.

Thank you for the time it took you to chronicle all of this!!!
 

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(I couldn't find this thread at the time.)

I would like to thank @PanzerPuff for the informative video. I would suggest one addendum: Instead of using a propane torch to help loosen the #3 Phillips head screws found the seat side brackets, I used a #3 Phillips head 1/2" drive socket on a breaker bar to remove these screws. It didn't take much of an arm to get them moving. I'm thinking if you have to really bear down these screws you are likely to have to drill them out. My concern was using a flame that close to the upper and lower seat pads -- ?potentially flammable?.

There is nothing like the smell of fresh leather.
 

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Remove seat back. I continue to drive the car so I start with the passenger seat back only.
7. Remove back cover.
8. The dreaded blue thread lock on phillips head screws? Need to use heat.
9. Passenger seat back is out.
10. Interesting seat clips, there are no hog rings here.
11. Cloth seat retainers to match upper back curvature.
Hey, PanzerPuff, I've watched your excellent video about 10 times and decided to pull the trigger and replace my 73 450SLC seat covers. One question: on your seat backs, you used the 6 "hog ring substitutes" -- but it looks like you didn't use them on the seat bottoms? My original seats were a shredded mess, but the seat bottoms had the same listings wires as the backs. Did yours not have the wires in the seat bottoms? Or did you just skip them?
 

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Hey, PanzerPuff, I've watched your excellent video about 10 times and decided to pull the trigger and replace my 73 450SLC seat covers. One question: on your seat backs, you used the 6 "hog ring substitutes" -- but it looks like you didn't use them on the seat bottoms? My original seats were a shredded mess, but the seat bottoms had the same listings wires as the backs. Did yours not have the wires in the seat bottoms? Or did you just skip them?
Yes correct, I did not use and did not have any hog ring substitutes for the seat bottoms. On my 1987 these items were only in the seatbacks. Not sure what you mean by "same listings wires as the backs." I used common hog rings (and you need hog ring pliers if you don't already have them) on the seat bottoms. Note this job is a lot easier with the seat bottom springs compressed. If I did this job again I would squash those springs and secure them with cable ties to make the leather cover go on easy. The last step would be to cut the cable ties and install the seat.
 
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