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Hi, I'm new to this forum and I'm 17. I like the format and everything, I've seen a lot of the pics of the 126s in the photo gallery and most of them are NICE. Anyway I have a problem with my 86' 420 SEL.

Well we brought the car in to our mechanic and after leaving it there for a few days the guy took the front end of the transmission out and said he replacedthe bosching or something and almost all parts on the front end of the transmission. and that he fixed it. Well after a few days we found out that it leaks. We took it back and a few days later we went back and found out that it leaks puddles. I have no idea what he did but now he says that he will have to replace the torque converter which will cost us at least 200 bucks and all the leaking will hopefully stop. So I'm going back on monday to check the status of that car. I was just wondering if anyone who knows about these cars may know what it is? Thanks for your time.

(By the way this car is in MINT condition and garage kept all her life. Last owner was an OLD OLD man.)
 

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what kind of shop did you take this to? Is it a shop the specialzies in MB transmissions? Also, you need to be Way more specifc about what this fellow replaced.. I don't think I've ever heard of a bosching;-)

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Yes, I'm quite certain he did..but I was having fun w/ the post a bit, I found "bosch"ing tough to let slip through[8D]

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LOL sorry, I meant bushing. I just got new lenses that say Bosch on it and I got the two words confused. I called the guy yesterday at 5:30 because that's when he told me to call him and he didn't pick up. So I took my dad's suburban, drove about 20 minutes to get to the shop and it said CLOSED. I saw the guy inside the shop so he totally ignored my phone call. Anyway the guy doesn't specialize in mercedes nor does the shop, but I see Mercedes in his shop all the time so I thought he might know something about the car. (obviously not) He replaced pretty much everything in the front end of the transmission. Actually I just found out the other day that he sent my transmission to a transmission specialist because he couldn't find the problem. The other mechanic (not certified mercedes mechanic) couldn't find the problem either. It's ridiculous because he's had the car for two weeks and the leaking has only gotten worse. I don't want to yell at him to rush things cause next thing I know he might damage something in the engine or transmission or who knows what.
 

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He prolly didn't seat the SEAL right, or didn't get the right SEAL in the first place, OR while putting the torque converter back in, he poped the spring that holds the SEAL aganst the torque converter neck. Tho I think your totaly thinking of a SEAL and not a bushing. Bushings are used in places like the Trans has a BUSHING that goes between the trans part of the mounting bracket, and the frame part of the holding bracket, motor mounts have bushings also ( the rubber in between ) front ends have bushings also... So if you had a leak before it was a leaking SEAL, not bushing... So that mechanic realy doesn't know what he's talking about... If he can't tell the diffrance between a bushing and a seal... You prolly don't even need a torque converter... those NEVER LEAK!! SEALS, hoses, gaskets leak. Not torque converters... He's milking 200 bucks outta you for a posable $2 part. check any parts/MB dealership on the price of a torque converter... Sue him later in small clames court!
 

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I'd take it to a mercedes mechanic. get it fixed and sue him for the total. that is if the mbz mechanic can see what the other mechanic did wrong. If he can't then there is no telling what the judge would say.
I got into a similiar situation with a vw mechanic. I had my engine rebuilt, then less than 1000 miles later, I needed another rebuild . I took the to another vw mechanic who could see what had happened and knew that it was the other mechanics fault. the first mechanic was ordered by the judge to pay for the second rebuild.
 

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Update: I got my car back yesterday and everything seemed fine. The mechanic said the leaking stopped and everything was ok. I was so glad I got it back I gave it a car wash and the whole nine yards etc etc...Anyway I started up the car this morning to drive to school just like every other day, I noticed it was still leaking puddles... other than that everything seemed fine. I noticed that as I was leaving my driveway and onto the main road I pushed the gas and it took a few second to respond, then it responded and I was on my way. I didn't pay any attention to that or think it was anything serious. Anyway I went on the highway and started cruising at about 55-60 mph, half way there I noticed I was losing speed so I pushed the gas a little bit more. I don't know what happened but the car felt like a manual car downshifting from a high gear to a low gear, the engine revved up then the engine turned off.

I had NOWHERE to pull over because there wasn't a shoulder (except steep shoulders with mud) and I wasn't about to take it into there. (This car doesn't know what mud even is) So I pulled over on an on ramp. (still close to the highway) I tried to start it again and it wouldn't start, it died on me. So I walked a quarter of a mile to the nearest gas station and called my dad to pick me up. I walked back to my car and said what the hell, I'll try to start it again. And it did start! I waited for my dad to come anyway and tell him that it fixed itself. Well he came and tried to start it and he did too, he put it into drive and pushed the accelerator and the engine only revved.

So anyway we called a tow truck and brought the car back to the same shop since the guy has been fixing this car under his warranty. This is like the fifth time we've had to drop it off for the same problem...Anyway he said sorry and said leave the car there and we left. My dad called the guy and asked what the problem was and the guy said he's not touching it anymore, he said he's sending to the MB dealer transmission specialist to fix it. Hopefully MB willd do a good job.

I should have never brought this car to that guy in the first place, The car was only leaking one drop a night and I was getting annoyed. I asked my dad if we can get the problem fixed and after a long time of trying to persuade him, he finally agreed. Now it leaks puddles and turned off on me once.
 

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You've got more patience than me. Don't let them tell you that one problem has nothing to do with the oother. That seems to be a favorite with poor mechanics. I've been down this road before.
 

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Hey im 17 too with a 91 420 SEL. I love it although it uses so much gas :(. If you have any quick questions, just IM me at erfaniman and ill see what i can do. Peace.

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SaleenS7 - 4/26/2005 4:18 PM

LOL sorry, I meant bushing. I just got new lenses that say Bosch on it and I got the two words confused. I called the guy yesterday at 5:30 because that's when he told me to call him and he didn't pick up. So I took my dad's suburban, drove about 20 minutes to get to the shop and it said CLOSED. I saw the guy inside the shop so he totally ignored my phone call. Anyway the guy doesn't specialize in mercedes nor does the shop, but I see Mercedes in his shop all the time so I thought he might know something about the car. (obviously not) He replaced pretty much everything in the front end of the transmission. Actually I just found out the other day that he sent my transmission to a transmission specialist because he couldn't find the problem. The other mechanic (not certified mercedes mechanic) couldn't find the problem either. It's ridiculous because he's had the car for two weeks and the leaking has only gotten worse. I don't want to yell at him to rush things cause next thing I know he might damage something in the engine or transmission or who knows what.
What part of NC are you in?? If you are close, you could come by the shop where I work, I am sure that we would get it done right!!
 

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Yeah these cars do use alot of gas, especially hurts since I put in super 93 all the time. But I don't pay for it, my dad does [;)] The most I've probably ever gotten out of this car was 460-90...Somewhere around there. Of course that was at highway speeds the whole time. In the city I usually get 350-360. Still pretty good for a car that weights around 4-5 thousand pounds.

Oh and I live in Wake Forest, NC
 

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Oh, never mind then, that's too far to drive. I am from Durham, so that would not be worth the effort on your part. I can see if I can get you the names of some reliable and honest shops in that are though.
 
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