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Everyone knows that when you're having an affair you don't send texts to the other man's wife. The same applies when you are leaning on the President of another country and "quid pro quoing" a visit to the White House and military aid...except Trump's chumps:

 

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Last night, Schiff, Engel and Cummings released a letter with attachments documenting some of the more damning details of Trump’s attempt to extort the President of Ukraine into announcing that he was investigating the Bidens, in return for release of military aid. Here’s a story that covers the high points, with the letter itself embedded at the end. The letter comes after a closed-door deposition of Special Envoy Kurt Volker, who is one of the bad actors who flipped on Trump because he doesn’t want to go down in flames.

I’ll leave the sophisticated analysis to others, but suffice it to say: texts bad, Trump’s fucked.
 

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talk about deep state-

Impeachment... or CIA coup?
By Dr. Ron Paul​

You don't need to be a supporter of President Trump to be concerned about the efforts to remove him from office. Last week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced impeachment proceedings against the President over a phone call made to the President of Ukraine. According to the White House record of the call, the President asked his Ukrainian counterpart to look into whether there is any evidence of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and then mentioned that a lot of people were talking about how former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden stopped the prosecution of his son who was under investigation for corruption in Ukraine.

Democrats, who spent more than two years convinced that "Russiagate" would enable them to remove Trump from office only to have their hopes dashed by the Mueller Report, now believe they have their smoking gun in this phone call.

It this about politics? Yes. But there may be more to it than that.

It may appear that the Democratic Party, furious over Hillary Clinton's 2016 loss, is the driving force behind this ongoing attempt to remove Donald Trump from office, but at every turn we see the fingerprints of the CIA and its allies in the U.S. Deep State.

In August 2016, a former acting director of the CIA, Mike Morell, wrote an extraordinary article in the New York Times accusing Donald Trump of being an "agent of the Russian Federation." Morell was clearly using his intelligence career as a way of bolstering his claim that Trump was a Russian spy – after all, the CIA should know such a thing! But the claim was a lie.

Former CIA Director John Brennan accused President Trump of "treason" and of "being in the pocket of Putin" for meeting with the Russian president in Helsinki and accepting his word that Russia did not meddle in the U.S. election. To this day, there has yet to be any evidence presented that the Russian government did interfere. Brennan openly called on "patriotic" Republicans to act against this "traitor."

Brennan and his Deep State counterparts James Comey at the FBI and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper launched an operation, using what we now know is the fake Steele dossier, to spy on the Trump presidential campaign and even attempt to entrap Trump campaign employees.

Notice a pattern here?

Now we hear that the latest trigger for impeachment is a CIA officer assigned to the White House who filed a "whistleblower" complaint against the president over something he heard from someone else that the president said in the Ukraine phone call.

Shockingly, according to multiple press reports the rules for CIA whistleblowing were recently changed, dropping the requirement that the whistleblower have direct, first-hand knowledge of the wrongdoing. Just before this complaint was filed, the rule-change allowed hearsay or second-hand information to be accepted. That seems strange.

As it turns out, the CIA "whistleblower" lurking around the White House got the important things wrong, as there was no quid pro quo discussed and there was no actual request to investigate Biden or his son.

The Democrats have suddenly come out in praise of whistleblowers – well not exactly. Pelosi still wants to prosecute actual whistleblower Ed Snowden. But she's singing the praises of this fake CIA "whistleblower."

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer once warned Trump that if "you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you." It's hard not to ask whether this is a genuine impeachment effort... or a CIA coup!
 

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I don't know - you guys often give this guy a free pass. For the most part he has always said about 100 bullshit, right wing things for every one rational thing he's said. This seems like Dr. Ron Paul telling you how thinks it is and it fits with a lot of other bullshit he's spewed. He was against the Iraq war and has been consistently non-interventionist. Good. The rest of his spiel is off the wall.

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the best thing about Paul is the way he bilked pubs, especially texas pubs, for years and years-

not a word about the trump deficit.
 

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Yeah, he's been completely silent on deficits....

How many links do you want me to post? Here's one to start:


Ok, the article posted is a bit of a stretch by the good doctor, especially with Trump doubling down on what he personally asked for, adding China to the list where Biden & Co. should be investigated, probably not a good spot to assert a CIA plot. ;) But Ron takes on DJT as much as he takes on everybody, and mainly for being stupid enough to fall for the neocon war machine agenda.
 

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I liked Ron Paul's views on blowback and foreign policy, I am in strong disagreement with every single domestic policy decision I've ever heard him speak of, I like Bernie for domestic policy, they woulda made an incredible team as far as I am concerned, I think the two of them Bernie Prez, Paul Sec State for 8 years would have done remarkable things for this country
 

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Talk about “deflection”...

Joe Biden explodes when a reporter asks a very simple question:

"How was your role as Vice President in charge of policy in Ukraine and your son's job in Ukraine, how is that not a conflict of interest?"

Biden: "I'm not going to respond to that!
Let’s focus on the problem, focus on this man, what he’s doing, that no president has ever done,” Biden told the media on Friday.
 

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read the whole article and didn't find one word of him saying trump had done something wrong-

you have a ton of articles, post one where he slams trump for his deficit policies-
 

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Deflection.
And Trump HAS done nothing to warrant yet another “investigation”.
I wish these “public servants” would put as much energy into running our gubment as they are at harassing our President while he does his job.
Go Pats! (not only the football team :)
 

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Johnson goes "tilt" on Todd's "Meet the Press" today when asked a simple question......

btw..I always try to view the complete hour.

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..https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/10/06/sen_ron_johnson_vs_chuck_todd_on_ukraine_why_are_you_bringing_up_fox_news_conspiracy_propaganda_stuff.html
 

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Todd..??

I thought that Johnson went berserk and Todd tried to reign him in and he just screamed on....and that was just the first question..
 

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the republican response to date can only lead to the president publicly asking

every country in the world to send him information that will help him get elected
 
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