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Great Evening, fellows!
I moved to Enoch, UT a few years ago with my beloved 1985 500SEC AMG. My amazing wife was sick of my bad fuel mileage, so I sold it. I replaced it with a 2004 Acura TL. The TL has been a good mid-sized car, but I'm ready for a nicer, larger sedan with less miles on the odometer and in much better condition.

The local 2004 S600 AMG sedan I found for sale locally shocked me! It seems to be in like new condition, was impressive to ride shotgun in during a test drive, and has a 5.5L Twin-Turbo V12 engine under it's hood. I'm VERY interested in buying it!

I'll run the S600 AMG by my excellent mechanic before purchase, but I'd also like to take advantage of the experience here on BenzWorld.

Comments? Opinions?
 

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I have a s600 and cl600. You have to be ready for big expenses (the abc hydraulic suspension and the coil
Packs ) which can cause not just 2 , but multiple 4 figure repairs . Each coil pack is over $1000 and there are two . The suspension has multiple parts at the end oif they’re lifespan . If you can work on the car yourself it is much better , if you must use a mechanic count on $2000-5000 per year in maintenance , there is a reason these cars are cheap to buy
 

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Not sure if this is the one you are looking at, I think not as no AMG cosmetic package. But it can provide a comparison with another S600 not to far from you. A forum member, Cowboy will chime in I bet, he has a lot of ownership experience with the S600. Personally I stay away from the S600 because I am a self maintainer, the S600 has a few things that put it out of my league to include the suspension and coils.

 

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If the S600 has been well maintained, then they're absolutely wonderful cars to own and drive, surprisingly reliable for a V12 and especially a turbocharged V12.

However, as tusabes correctly says, there are a few things that are high-dollar maintenance items on them. He's already pointed out the big ones.

Now, two very important questions:

1.) Can you do your own maintenance?
2.) Are you willing to also purchase a STAR Diagnostic System (SDS) setup to help you diagnose any issues with the car?

If either one of the answers to these two questions is "no", then don't buy the car. Instead, stick with your Acura. However, if you are willing to do your own maintenance, and if you are willing to purchase an SDS setup (they're about $600 for a turnkey system), then you will find that the S600 TT--or the S430, S500, or S55 AMG, for that matter--is, with few exceptions, a surprisingly easy car to keep in good repair. It's also a wonderfully driving automobile.

But the answers to those two questions really do need to be "yes". I'd never have bought my S600 if they weren't.
 

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Thank you so much!

MikeKerr, you're correct. The S600 AMG I found has 104K miles on the odometer.

I've been capable of doing all maintenance on every automobile I've owned since I was 16 (I grew up on a cattle ranch and was guided into taking care of myself). I also have a local mechanic now who I'm close friends with. He's recently fixed a semi on the side of the highway on his first attempt. I'll ask him right away if he has a SDS. If he doesn't, I'll pick one up immediately.
 

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These cars are very addicting. I was lucky when I bought mine. It is very similar. It is the SL65 AMG with a 6.0 liter V12 biturbo. It is tuned to 750/840 hp/tq.

The PO actually let me put the car up on my lift to inspect for any weeping hoses, etc. It was dealer maintained from new up until I purchased it. Both coils had been replaced recently which was a big plus. New it was $187,000 which simply blows my mind 😳.

Besides inspecting it, see if you can run a scan with SDS to help identify any additional issues. Good luck!!
 

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This car isn’t for your common mechanic. I have owed 6 Mercedes. Cl 500 ,Cl600 Carlsson, Ml350 bluetec, sl500, e350,and clk 55 cabrio. Do not buy this car if your mechanic is not familiar with working on them. Which based on your he wouldn’t be, plus does he have all the software updates. Don’t get caught up in the low price and emotional ether. It will come back at you.$$$$$$$ This car original price 140k to 165 k just because you get a good price won’t mean you wont be paying the price of a 150k car. Keep that in mind. That’s why there so cheap to buy. Last word of advice if you plan to drive once a week less then 3500 miles a year consider it. If it’s an everyday car don’t.
 

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While working on these cars, I’ve noticed car driven every day and beat to death, last longer and hold up better. Garage queens have the most issues, ABC is the most headaches. Leaks just appear out of nowhere and render it stranded. Be prepared to keep ABC up to date. And CHF11S in your trunk.
 

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My W220 is a Garage Queen lol, but that said, it is a Heated Garage, dry Humidity, and I use Battery Maintainers, I normally do give both my "Toys" a good, (at least 50 mile), round trip weekly ;)

Currently costs me around £30 a week to heat the New Garage, but that will fall drastically when my SLK is finished and I get to fit out the interior of said Garage which will include fully insulating it ;)
 

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The feedback I've received on this thread is precisely what I was hoping for!

I'm not interested in purchasing the 2004 S600 AMG out of purely emotional motivations. It is, of course, a very luxurious, full-sized automobile. It also seems to be in perfect shape. It's powered by a Twin-Turbo V12? I'm certain I could get used to having nearly 500hp, and 600lb-ft under my right foot! My current daily driver, a 2004 Acura TL, is a nice, reliable mid-size sedan with over 215K miles on it's odometer, fading paint, a leather interior that appears to have never been treated, and a few small dents. It's impressive 3.2L V6 generates 290hp, motivating the most powerful vehicle I've ever owned.

Where is the best place for me to buy a STAR Diagnostic System (SDS)?
 

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I bought mine from ShenZhen OEMScan Tool Co, Ltd. over on AliExpress.com. This is the same vendor that @ArcticDweller turned us on to, a few years ago. I know, Chinese vendor, but their stuff actually has been good for me, so I gotta give 'em due credit. The software mine uses is July 2015, which is by far recent enough to do our cars, and then some.
 

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2015 - 2016 software is actually one of the best out there, my 2016 is now my go to Machine for most day to day things.

I also have 3 others, one of which (2014) uses C3 MUX, and the other 3 all use the C4 SD Connect MUX.

They are all very good at certain specific tasks, and obviously the 2019 will do bang up to date Models, but no one of them will do all on all MB Models, hence, why, as an MB Specialist I have a selection.

For W220 most are absolutely fine as @Triple cranks and @cowboyt have stated, and Further to that you can also use C3 Mux and Leads or C4 SD Connect, AFAIK, (at the current time of writing this), the advice to steer clear of C5 still stands, IIRC it is not really a C5 anyways, so not worth extra money as it is just modified C4 guts in a C5 Case ;)

HTH,
 

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Thank you
 
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