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hello, im wondering how to confirm whether or not a car is an amg. would i have to contact mercedes or could i tell by the vin? would mercedes even have records of this because im not sure if the merge with amg was official at that time (vehicle is a 1999). thanks, i appreciate any help
 

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Chances are if you need to ask, it isn't one.

You may have some bits added side skirts, wheels and other cosmetics, more often than not a badge on the trunk, but if it is a genuine AMG-:

The AMG is an SL55 and not a SL500, a 5.5litre with added HP.

They are all hand built and have the following plate fitted with the signature of the Tech who assembled it.

The Air filter housing will be marked AMG lots of interior add ons.

The price to get an SL55 will be heaps higher than a SL500

But if it's not 5.5 litre and is not equipped with the hand made badge or the SL55 trunk badge it is not AMG.
 

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hello, im wondering how to confirm whether or not a car is an amg. would i have to contact mercedes or could i tell by the vin? would mercedes even have records of this because im not sure if the merge with amg was official at that time (vehicle is a 1999). thanks, i appreciate any help
Post some pictures & I can tell you if it real or not.....:grin

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129-sl-class/1938002-real-fake-r129-sl55.html

....^^^....For more information you could read it here (Real or Fake R129 SL55) ....:smile

They are all hand built and have the following plate fitted with the signature of the Tech who assembled it.


But if it's not 5.5 litre and is not equipped with the hand made badge or the SL55 trunk badge it is not AMG.
The signature engine badge didn't came out until (year 2003) ......:wink
 

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thanks you for the help i do have some knowledge on the r129 amg cars and as far as i can tell everything fits i will work on getting pics uploaded later tonight.
 
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It could all be cosmetic, granted it is a more thorough job than most "amg" r129s. if i go to check it out what things like the plaque mentioned should i look for?
 

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Looks like a nice ride. I cannot comment on AMG or not but wouldn't the VIN data tell the tale?
 

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It could all be cosmetic, granted it is a more thorough job than most "amg" r129s. if i go to check it out what things like the plaque mentioned should i look for?
It not the plaque that should be check out....

It the interior that should be check out.....

As for now I don't think it an SL55....

It don't have AMG 2 piece rims....

Need some pictures of the interior.......

Interior
1. AMG steering wheel with AMG air bag
2. AMG speedo with 200mph or 300 kph
3. Carbon-fiber trim
4. AMG floor mat
 
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i read through the real or fake sl55 thread you posed and noticed that one of the sl55s that you were comparing the fake sl55 to did not have the carbon fiber trim. still, if you ignore that, the one im looking at would only meet 1 of the 4 criterias you specified. it is still a very nice looking car heres the link which i probably should have posed in the first place instead of messing with the pictures so see for yourselves. its not even advertised as a 55 and of course $10,500 for an sl55 would be insane but i figured it was worth looking into.

Mercedes Benz SL Class AMG Sport | eBay
 

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From what I am looking at its just a standard re-badged SL500. The interior is all wrong no AMG Wheel, Speedo, Two-Tone Leather or CF. The lettering on the back actually looks to be too far spaced apart from letter to letter. Here is a link to a real SL55 with many pictures:

Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG R129 - AUTO SALON SINGEN - Bilder

From the engine bay pics the only noticeable differance I can spot is right next to the oil filter. Look at the SL55 there looks to be some kind of thick spacer there for some reason. All that looks like is a 99 SL500.
 

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Tony I don't want to step in your specialty/domain.

The first generation AMG was about $2500 package of a few things, larger rims and tires, batches, etc, to make the car more appealing.
Nothing to special.

Regards,
aam.
 
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From what I am looking at its just a standard re-badged SL500. The interior is all wrong no AMG Wheel, Speedo, Two-Tone Leather or CF. The lettering on the back actually looks to be too far spaced apart from letter to letter. Here is a link to a real SL55 with many pictures:

Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG R129 - AUTO SALON SINGEN - Bilder

From the engine bay pics the only noticeable differance I can spot is right next to the oil filter. Look at the SL55 there looks to be some kind of thick spacer there for some reason. All that looks like is a 99 SL500.
i have seen that one posted before, anyone know what 1000 miglia means?
 

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i read through the real or fake sl55 thread you posed and noticed that one of the sl55s that you were comparing the fake sl55 to did not have the carbon fiber trim. still, if you ignore that, the one im looking at would only meet 1 of the 4 criterias you specified. it is still a very nice looking car heres the link which i probably should have posed in the first place instead of messing with the pictures so see for yourselves. its not even advertised as a 55 and of course $10,500 for an sl55 would be insane but i figured it was worth looking into.

Mercedes Benz SL Class AMG Sport | eBay
None of the misunderstanding if you post the link in the first place.....

The topic of your thread have a lot of people confused (how to tell if an r129 is really an amg)

The seller already advertised it as (1999 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class
SL 500, 70K miles, just serviced, new Nitto tires. AMG pkg. Xenon lts, htd seats)

Like what you say......

Now to answer your questions & clear some confused....

(how to tell if an r129 is really an amg)

hello, im wondering how to confirm whether or not a car is an amg. thanks, i appreciate any help
The car have the real AMG sport package nothing more....

AMG designed sculpted lower body aerodynamic enhancements, to include:
Front apron with mesh air intake, two seperate tow hook covers
Contoured rear apron
Sculpted side skirts with Sport emblem(not on 01-02)
Halogen projector-beam front foglamps
245/40ZR18 front and 275/35ZR18 rear, low profile high-performance tires
8.5Jx18" front and 9.5Jx18" rear, staggered-width AMG 5 spoke monoblock alloy wheels

It's a SL55....??

NO.... Just all kind of ebay badge...
 

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Tony I don't want to step in your specialty/domain.

The first generation AMG was about $2500 package of a few things, larger rims and tires, batches, etc, to make the car more appealing.
Nothing to special.

Regards,
aam.
That is correct Albert......:thumbsup:
 

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