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hey i got to big cracks goin up my windshield from a chip n the glass , if anyone have infomation on the way to remove and replace the windshield would be great.
 

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hey i got to big cracks goin up my windshield from a chip n the glass , if anyone have infomation on the way to remove and replace the windshield would be great.
better left to a professional. Its the type of job that needs some practice to get right.
 

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And a third,, a specialist job, they do it so quick
 

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I agree with the above posts. You have to have experience doing it...unless you are looking to redo the thing over. You'll probably end up with leaks around the seals etc.
 

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I'm planning to replace my windshield ( lots of scratches. )
Have anyone replaced it before?
Any side effects ? Like leaking, jeopardize the sound proof .........etc??
 

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Unless you're equipped with the correct tools and know the correct procedure, replacing the windshield is a BIG deal. For a pro, it's not so involved. Both A pillar covers come off, the upper trim strip, both wiper arms, HVAC intake air box, lower trim panel. Windshield is cut out after everything is removed. This isn't a DIY job unless you happen to be a windshield installer.

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Rickjack,

The replacement of the windshield is critical on the W140. The W140 does not just have a surface molding on the outer parameters that just snap off, and the bottom is not just held with a rubber stops. Ahh, lets not forget the wiper-it is not a matter of lifting the wiper blade, locking the wiper, and then lifting it out.

The W140 has the bottom molding that has to be aligned mounting holes. The W140 has these side nacelles that are their for cosmetic looks, aery-dynamics, and fluid-dynamics. Those nacelles have to be aligned correctly if they touch on the top of the fenders a rust spot will start to develop. Plus, all the windows installers like to use lot of tape, and wrapping tape around these side nacelles is big no no...

Lastly, the windshield wiper is a complex part on the W140, and the third party installers never seen, nor know how to deal with the wiper, so they start to try to snap off the plastic covers, well the cover below pivoting portion will break. This wiper is a mess for the installer.

Go to the dealer, or the Mercedes independent shop.

I always hear horror stories, and hear it is worse on the W210 with the mono-wiper where the wiper gear is broken. Remember the Mercedes wiper system cannot be moved manually, and installers do not know since it is a complex process.

Word to wise, go to someone who knows Mercedes Vehicles

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Last week I had the same happen. I have been quoted between $165 and $300 to replace (not covered by insurance). The low number does not include replacing the rubber seal, which I think is essential for such an old car. So I am going with a $223 quote, from a guy who seemes to know his stuff. However, I appreciate the heads-up from MAVA regarding the wipers and will warn the installer.

Note that state law here in SC mandates glass repair coverage if you have comprehensive coverage - my $1600 purchase does not. Check with your insurance.
 

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I read horror story after horror story on the W210 forum with the mono-wiper, so for me Dealer Parts only.

I pay a premium on my insurance of 25 to 30 more a year for factory parts only because a windshield is about a couple of thousand at the dealer.

Martin
 

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Hey guys, curious if you have any experience with windshield REPAIR? I have scratches on mine from trying to take off some tough tree sap :\ So I got a quote of $180 from a window repair specialist that has been doing it for 30 years now. He says he's seen worse and it won't be a problem to repair. But how will it look visually from inside? Warped or anything of that sort? Fog of any sort? Thanks!
 

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As mentioned above & on the previous page,a windscreen on a w140 should be changed by the pro's but if money saving comes in play then here you go,slowly slowly & beeing extremly carefull you might get it out :
1st of take the chrome trim of from the surrounding windscreen outside,unclipp the edges then the long bars and corners unhook by twisting them a little sometimes they either just pop out when you take the corners of or sliding them out ,see whats best for yours ,use comonsense there and dont damage the chrome trim by doing that .
2nd : Get a stanley knife and cut ,not to deep you wont need that , all around the windscreen ,just inaf that you brake the glue under there inbetween the screen & the chassis of the screen .
3rd : now get inside and sit on your middle console ( not the drivers seat & not the Passenger seat ,Yes the middle console ) ,lower your steering wheel 1st & seats back by the way , now sitting on your middle console ,lift one of you feet and place it near the edge of the screen on the left , place the right foot up to the right edge of the screen,not exactly on the far edges but close to it ,start pushing the windscreen out (with your feet if you have 2 of those),once you see it lift and you see that on top -left & right the screen has unstuck itself ,place something inbetween that gap so when you get out you can grab it ,its a good idee to have a spare guy there with you to take it out ,lifting it over the bonnet and over the wipers in the up position with gloves as the edge could be sharp & cut your hand .
Once you got the screen out start cleaning all the black glue there ,turpentine should do the trick ,dont touch the paint work .
Make sure you have the new windscreen there and the windscreen glue .
Thats about it . You might need the glass sucktion holders, strong once too and make sure you measure the BOTTOM gap to centre the new screen ,use some little pieces of wood or something ,same like tiling ,that gap is very important ,if you dont put something under there the screen could slowy slide right down the bottom making a mess with the glue on the windscreen inside ,so be carefull .
I have changed about 4 windscreens on different cars my self so that is how i did it ,you should have seen the 1st one ,Dont ask .........messy lol .
Dont be scared taking it out ,its already broken ,you cant make it worst ,just make sure you feel the complete braking point under your feet so ,eyewear protection would be a good idee as well .
Good luck and dont brake it .:thumbsup:
Almost forgot those wipers ,put your key in the ignition & turn it so the wipers work ,activate the wipers and turn the key to off or completely out when the wipers are in the middle of the screen ,thats were they will stay and you can now pull the wipers away from the screen with the bonnet down,there might be something else under the bonnet you need to pull of so check before you lift them ,i forgot that detail but if you can manage to take the drivers side wiper of it makes it much more easy ,pass... wipers is one nut .
Only the drivers side wiper could give you trouble so look into that before you start doing anything at all,i think you need to take the black cover of were the wipers are hidden under ,underneat the bonnet were the firewall is , 5/6 phillips head screws & that long black cover comes off,good time to lube your heater fans etc and check the filter as well ,140's ,yes ,they are slightly different then all others no wonder we love em ,i do anyway & for this particular delicate windscreen job ,i would give it to the pros so if something should go wrong its there trouble not yours .
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I'm tempted to delete this post completely because changing a screen is not just that easy as i written it above ,there is a little more to it like "Jayare" has also posted on the previous page .
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As mentioned above & on the previous page,a windscreen on a w140 should be changed by the pro's but if money saving comes in play then here you go,slowly slowly & beeing extremly carefull you might get it out :
1st of take the chrome trim of from the surrounding windscreen outside,unclipp the edges then the long bars and corners unhook by twisting them a little sometimes they either just pop out when you take the corners of or sliding them out ,see whats best for yours ,use comonsense there and dont damage the chrome trim by doing that .
2nd : Get a stanley knife and cut ,not to deep you wont need that , all around the windscreen ,just inaf that you brake the glue under there inbetween the screen & the chassis of the screen .
3rd : now get inside and sit on your middle console ( not the drivers seat & not the Passenger seat ,Yes the middle console ) ,lower your steering wheel 1st & seats back by the way , now sitting on your middle console ,lift one of you feet and place it near the edge of the screen on the left , place the right foot up to the right edge of the screen,not exactly on the far edges but close to it ,start pushing the windscreen out (with your feet if you have 2 of those),once you see it lift and you see that on top -left & right the screen has unstuck itself ,place something inbetween that gap so when you get out you can grab it ,its a good idee to have a spare guy there with you to take it out ,lifting it over the bonnet and over the wipers in the up position with gloves as the edge could be sharp & cut your hand .
Once you got the screen out start cleaning all the black glue there ,turpentine should do the trick ,dont touch the paint work .
Make sure you have the new windscreen there and the windscreen glue .
Thats about it . You might need the glass sucktion holders, strong once too and make sure you measure the BOTTOM gap to centre the new screen ,use some little pieces of wood or something ,same like tiling ,that gap is very important ,if you dont put something under there the screen could slowy slide right down the bottom making a mess with the glue on the windscreen inside ,so be carefull .
I have changed about 4 windscreens on different cars my self so that is how i did it ,you should have seen the 1st one ,Dont ask .........messy lol .
Dont be scared taking it out ,its already broken ,you cant make it worst ,just make sure you feel the complete braking point under your feet so ,eyewear protection would be a good idee as well .
Good luck and dont brake it .:thumbsup:
Almost forgot those wipers ,put your key in the ignition & turn it so the wipers work ,activate the wipers and turn the key to off or completely out when the wipers are in the middle of the screen ,thats were they will stay and you can now pull the wipers away from the screen with the bonnet down,there might be something else under the bonnet you need to pull of so check before you lift them ,i forgot that detail but if you can manage to take the drivers side wiper of it makes it much more easy ,pass... wipers is one nut .
Only the drivers side wiper could give you trouble so look into that before you start doing anything at all,i think you need to take the black cover of were the wipers are hidden under ,underneat the bonnet were the firewall is , 5/6 phillips head screws & that long black cover comes off,good time to lube your heater fans etc and check the filter as well ,140's ,yes ,they are slightly different then all others no wonder we love em ,i do anyway & for this particular delicate windscreen job ,i would give it to the pros so if something should go wrong its there trouble not yours .
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I'm tempted to delete this post completely because changing a screen is not just that easy as i written it above ,there is a little more to it like "Jayare" has also posted on the previous page .
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TQVM for the great input.
I've decided sending mine to the pro for the windshield replacement.


I'm just worry, after the replacement( even done by pro),is there any complications compare with the original windshield in terms like ,

1. Sound proof?
2. Leaking?
3. Any vibration ?
4. Others complication........etc

Kindly share with me about your experience. TQVM.
 

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There shouldn't be. The windshield is glued in. Interview the installer

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Mine was replaced due to small stone chips which finally developed into a large crack line after the winter months. Job was done by a pro-windshield installer. Insist on replacing with original MB windshield, my insurance company is fine with that. Its a bit expensive but worthwhile.

No bad experience after the install. You will lost the original MB windshield sticker. I ordered a new one which is different than the original..
 

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To my post above, I forgot to mention that my installer says he will use Pilkington glass, which is claims is OEM. Not sure how true or important that is.
 

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When you install a new windscreen not beeing an original one ,as mentioned already you loose the securit logo on the edges , another thing is that the original w140 windscreen is reinforced on the drivers side so you loose that as well and finally ,the new windscreens fog up quicker due to the different materials they use ,these aftermarket windscreens they feel like a hard persplex touch and not glass like you would have now ,even when you knock onto them like knocking on a door ,the sound is different ,but other then that it's a new windscreen after all .
The windscreens without the glue they have a rubberseal all around the edge ,still with a little bit of glue to make a seal but not much ,those once to install them you get a little rope that fits all around the edge of the windscreen rubberseal all around and make them join on the top from both sides with a little bit hanging over so you can grab it later,put the seal on the windscreen then fitted it on the car ,go inside and pull the 2 endings from the rope ,you see that the screen as you pull it in will now go directly into its original poistion and make a seal as you pull the rope,a bit of cleaning here & there ,Job done ,thats easy .:thumbsup:
 

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Am about to replace my windshield but am concerned about the rain sensor, can I remove it from the old one?


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Am about to replace my windshield but am concerned about the rain sensor, can I remove it from the old one?


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The sensor, yes, the optical mount for the sensor, no. The sensor snaps onto the mount. The assembly is under the center speaker mount in the top center of the windshield. To get to it, you have to remove the mirror, then the three screws holding the mirror mount/center speaker assembly. Once that mount is removed, the rain sensor is underneath. Once you remove the connector to the sensor, unsnap the black sensor box off the mount.

When you get a new windshield, be sure to tell them your car has a rain sensor. That way they will get the correct windshield, with the mount already installed.

The mount is securely glued to the windshield. I've tried to get a couple off, with no luck. Mercedes doesn't sell the mount separately, only as part of the windshield.

Jon
 
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