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Hi, luciano.

Please click the user cp link and complete your BW profile for vehicle and location as that is often useful information, particularly when you're asking questions.

The oil change -- if that's all you get done and not one of the alpha services -- can run from $100 to $140 depending on where you go. Dealers often charge less because they'll try to upsell you to one of the alpha services or find other things you should have done. This is also a very simple DIY that you can do for about $75 in supplies once you purchase the vacuum extractor (another $70 or so).

Brakes? Well, it depends on what you need, where you go, and in what region of the country (or world, for that matter) you reside. Indies are almost always less expensive, and if all you need is pads F&R, you're looking at a few hundred dollars -- on average. Full blown pads and rotors, F&R, at a dealer, you could be looking at more than $1,500.

So...update your profile, you may get some good indie suggestions from other members in your area, and then call a few. But you'll need more details as to what exactly you need done with the brakes.

Take care and enjoy the ride,
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brakes & oil

hello,

just to add my two cents. i know there's a clear distinction between those that prefer to have it serviced and those that like DIY. from the DIY camp, I can seriously say oil change and brakes can be done by most people. i'm no mechanic, but i've done these two things to my 2000 e46 323i bmw since new and it's not that difficult at all and there are no special tools required including no use of a vacuum extractor for the oil (no disrespect to previous poster, this is just my experience). now that I just purchased a pre-loved 2004 e320 wagon, i plan to do the same to that vehicle as well.

warnings be damned!
 

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hello,

just to add my two cents. i know there's a clear distinction between those that prefer to have it serviced and those that like DIY. from the DIY camp, I can seriously say oil change and brakes can be done by most people. i'm no mechanic, but i've done these two things to my 2000 e46 323i bmw since new and it's not that difficult at all and there are no special tools required including no use of a vacuum extractor for the oil (no disrespect to previous poster, this is just my experience). now that I just purchased a pre-loved 2004 e320 wagon, i plan to do the same to that vehicle as well.

warnings be damned!
Not sure, but you may change your view once you see the process required to deactivate and reset the SBC system on your 211. I too have done many brake jobs, but changing brakes on an SBC equipped car is more than banging off the old rotor and slipping in new pads. My car is at the BMW/MB indie around the corner from me as we speak getting new front brakes because of the complexity of this system. There are guys who do it themselves, but it is by no means something that can be done by "most people," even with DIY experience.

By the way, for those interested, my dealer wanted $575 for the front brakes (rotors, pads and sensors), and my indie is charging $500.
 

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wow that indie is not really that much better

if hes good then hes good but for peace of mind the $75 bucks more spent at the dealer would be what I would do, but also my car is still under warranty for 2.5 more years....

and the oil can be changed from the bottom but is easier from the top and is also the way they designed it to work

some models dont even have a dipstick, new ones are electronic so the dipstick tube with no dipstick is more like a straw that goes to the bottom of the oil pan very easy and works like a charm pulling 99% of the oil out
 

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wow that indie is not really that much better

if hes good then hes good but for peace of mind the $75 bucks more spent at the dealer would be what I would do, but also my car is still under warranty for 2.5 more years....

and the oil can be changed from the bottom but is easier from the top and is also the way they designed it to work

some models dont even have a dipstick, new ones are electronic so the dipstick tube with no dipstick is more like a straw that goes to the bottom of the oil pan very easy and works like a charm pulling 99% of the oil out
Actually, I had it wrong. My indie did the brakes for $450. Even if the prices were similar, I do like the fact that my indie is close enough to my house that I can walk there! No messing around with loaners (and yes, my dealer hands out new MB loaners, but unless they are AMG's or S class cars, who cares?!).
 

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well now thats a big difference!

LOL an AMG loaner we only wish my brother!!!

they would get it back from me needing new rear tires and possibly a trans
 

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I have changed the brakes on our E500 and it was easy to follow the MB procedure to deactivate the SBC w/o startrek stuff. Then disconnect connector on SBC. Pads were about as difficult as my daughters old Ford escort. Cost to change pads and sensors on the front $85.00
 

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i know the pads are very reasonable

what year is your e500 and where did you get the deactivation procedure from?
 

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i have schedule E do in 8k miles and guess will get the oil change done at the dealer. Anything else they find (minus brake/wear items) should be covered under the CPO warranty?
 

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i dont have a benz, ive been thinking about buying an 06 e350....but im really having second thoughts since my cousin told me how expensive it was for his cls to get brakes/oil change done
 

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Again, no disrespect, but I just did the brakes front and rear rotors and pads as well as an oil change for pretty much zip. Now, I will admit that I have a father In Law that runs a auto paint/body shop and his tools certainly helped but as discussed earlier, shutting off the SBC to do the brakes really wasn't that tough and the rotors and shoes were actually easier to do on this car than my bmw E46. total cost including oil change - 400
 

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i know the pads are very reasonable

what year is your e500 and where did you get the deactivation procedure from?
2003 E500

Procedures came from MB service manual under topic of Deactivaction of SBC w/o startrek computer.

So I followed the manual for w/o computer. After following the procedure I also unplugged the SBC unit. After completion of the work as they would say in chiltons, Just reverse disassebly.

I do however depress the brake pedal before turning on the key so that when the sbc pump activated it would pressurize and seat the new pads.
 

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Again, no disrespect, but I just did the brakes front and rear rotors and pads as well as an oil change for pretty much zip. Now, I will admit that I have a father In Law that runs a auto paint/body shop and his tools certainly helped but as discussed earlier, shutting off the SBC to do the brakes really wasn't that tough and the rotors and shoes were actually easier to do on this car than my bmw E46. total cost including oil change - 400
Glad you had no problem. As I had said before, it can be done DIY, but it is not the same as doing a brake job on any other car. This forum is a chronicle of the difficulties people have had doing the work themselves. Forum reader beware, of course, but I have concerns when posters (I'm not referring to you, aa240sx) say or imply that this is easy stuff. These cars are complex, and this forum contains a litany of people getting themselves into trouble.

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I have changed the brakes on our E500 and it was easy to follow the MB procedure to deactivate the SBC w/o startrek stuff.
vettdrv, you say that changing the brakes on your 211 was easy, but in 2007 you carefully documented all the difficulties you had. Yes, you figured it out, and next time will likely be easy for you, but I must admit that the chronicle of problems you had was one of the influencing factors in my decision to not tackle it myself. I appreciate the fact that you documented this, but anything that requires frequent trips to the computer to post questions is most certainly not easy.
 

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vettdrv, you say that changing the brakes on your 211 was easy, but in 2007 you carefully documented all the difficulties you had. Yes, you figured it out, and next time will likely be easy for you, but I must admit that the chronicle of problems you had was one of the influencing factors in my decision to not tackle it myself. I appreciate the fact that you documented this, but anything that requires frequent trips to the computer to post questions is most certainly not easy.
You are correct. Attention to details makes it easy. When I did mine there wasn't as much information available as there is today. Given the information and assistance not available I think it makes this makes the job relatively easy. I have provided others for a DIY that have also replied it was easy with the information. Fortunately DIY"ers now have a better source of info than I did in 2007. I did the same thing on my service of transmission and sparkplugs. My thoughts Transmission no more diffcult than my ford truck and sparkplugs much easier than the Lincoln Mark 7.

But of course this is my opinion. For some this might be too difficult and others may just prefer to pay for the service.

A MB really is just another piece of machinery. Taking the time to understand the details and gathering all the information will make the actual job easy. Failure to gather information will present problems. Even professionals refer to the "books" for more information.
 
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