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Hey everybody!

I'm a little new to this forum stuff, so bear with me. I just recently got an '85 190E, it's my first car and I love it!! Unfortunately, the previous owner did not give the TLC it deserved. Anyway, I would love to restore it and then start enhancing the performance, but have no idea where to start. Any suggestions you guys have would awesome, especially in terms of increasing the perf.

Thanks!!
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MTI

MTI and a user by the name of Spanners seem to be extremely knowledgable with the 190E's, I'd take their advice...but here's what I've accumulated.

Which model do you have?

I don't think there's much you can do performance wise to the engine, there is the R61(?) mod which is not recommended by all, use a K&N blower or add a performance exhaust.

You can tune the suspension!

You can update your look with Euro lights, cleaning it up.

The best thing you can do is get everything working
correctly and you'll be happy.

best of luck

190E-Boy
 

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There are subtle ways of improving the performance of the M102 8 valve in the '85 but with...

There are subtle ways of improving the performance of the M102 8 valve in the '85 but without substantial investment, it won't ever be a V-Tec killer, at least not in the straight parts. First, the chassis is heavy, but the lighter of any MB sedan made since the 1930's. The design, including the aerodymanics, were aimed at all day cruising at 100 mph, not the "stoplight grand prix." As a result, the trans starts out in 2nd gear and the gearing reflects the aim of smooth cruising and mpg from that era.

Start by making sure the engine is clean and tuned. Compression leak down test the cyliners and replace any valve or piston parts that compromise the compression. There is no "R/16" timing resistor in this engine until 1987, so don't bother looking for it to remove it. For "Stage I" tuning, a free flow exhaust system will add a few (and I emphasize few)HP. There are those that claim that sythetic oil, a different air filter or "cold air intake" will get you more HP, but those claims are yet to be verified on a dyno. There are street camshafts for the M102, but remember, what you gain in upper end performance, you might be giving away in low end smoothness. NOS is an option, but remember it's only for flat out use.

Beyond that, it get real expensive. Turbocharging, bore & stroking, and engine swaps.
 

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Thank you for the great advice! But what I might ultimately do is swap the engine, of cou...

Thank you for the great advice! But what I might ultimately do is swap the engine, of course, that'll be a while! I've seen some talk of putting an Astro van engine into the 190, but I don't think I want to go that route. What I'd really love to do is swap for an AMG engine. Not quite sure which one is best, or how much that'll be, but that's what I want to do.
 

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Ambitious plans . . . finding a donor AMG engine that won't cost double the value of the c...

Ambitious plans . . . finding a donor AMG engine that won't cost double the value of the car will be interesting. Engine swaps for the W201, done by competant mechanics, can range from sticking with the MB engines, the 16 valve, the M103 I6 (not much bang for the buck) to small V-8's by FoMoCo or GM and the best yet . . . the turbocharged Toyota Supra motors. Remember the key element is relative front end weight and rear wheel drive transmission.
 
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