Maybe a dumb question but how does one get to that allen bolt (10mm) from below in the subframe? I can't even see the head (because of the control arm and it being recessed) to determine how rusty,etc. I was able to get a socket/extension/swivel/wrench up in there but it always seems like it ends up at an angle-so I'm paranoid I'll round it off. Everything I have read here talks more about the difficulty with the two smaller bolts holding the mount to the subframe (including a special tool someone fabricated). Can someone point me to a thread that might explain this in more detail or offer advice on how they did it? Local indie I called during a frustrated moment quoted me $390 labor (including rear). My biggest concern is determining whether or not they really need replacing-how does one know? I purchased the three mounts for $40 from a guy who changed his mind-if I do it myself and they are not too bad...a little labor on my part -no harm no foul. If I pay someone $400 and they are in O.K. shape-expensive way to lose some weight (in the wallet that is). I replaced the front shocks a few weeks ago and didn't notice the difference I was expecting after 131,000 miles. Went back to the packet of receipts from the previous owner(s) and :crybaby2: must have missed the fact that they were replaced at 88,000. No record of subframe bushes having been replaced but when I replaced those they were not too bad-nothing like I've seen on some of threads here. I just don't have the discretionary cash to be replacing stuff that can wait when there is so much else to fix on this car.