[tony1963tony]

The Mercedes engineers developed a free flowing exhaust system that works well. Please don't get me started on all of the George, Barney and Elmer engineering that goes on in the garage that out-performs what was developed in Germany. I've laughed myself too many times reading how these cobbled up messes ended up turning on check engine lights, putting the system into default mode, melting underhood components and basically RUINING the vehicle.

ANY, I repeat ANY horsepower gains from headers can be easily out-performed by the driver losing 20 lbs. Headers are a way to make someone's 401k plan grow and a way to move money from your pocket to theirs.

WASTE OF TIME, MONEY AND THOUGHT.

 

[tony1963tony]

You should read all of the Elmer engineering that goes on over on the Chevrolet board. In particular, that group in the 1961 to 1964 Impala series where they are convinced that their bread-and-butter cheaply built Impala is the best vehicle ever designed on earth. Barney, George and Elmer are alive and well over there. Lots of money being poured into aftermarket 401k plans by people who probably struggle to keep their bills current.

Just read a post over there about tubular A-arms, as if those are a necessary item. LOL

 

[tony1963tony]

Most people would never openly admit that they tossed thousands of dollars in the wind. Instead, they'll make up a story that the dyno shop tried to buy the vehicle because it makes enough power to push a satellite into low earth orbit.

 

[tony1963tony]

That's great information if you are an aftermarket company picking the pockets of unsuspecting people - but where is your proof? Certified by an independent lab?

The graphs that I have seen over on the Chevrolet board show about a 5% gain in horsepower and torque. So, you have to ask yourself the question. If this additional gain comes in only at full throttle, what percentage of that is ever going to get used.

An engine rarely runs at full throttle and I'd bet that all passenger vehicle engines operate at full throttle less than 1/1000th of one percent of the total time in their useful lives.

 

[tony1963tony]

Totally agree with you.

My point was that the "scientists" over on the Chevrolet board will suggest to you that adding headers somehow doubled the horsepower. The 5% was for one of those ancient 350 engines. You are right that any engine Mercedes ever produced is far better than the George, Barny and Elmer Chevy engines.

 

[tony1963tony]

That's great information if you are an aftermarket company picking the pockets of unsuspecting people - but where is your proof? Certified by an independent lab?

Next I'll read where a bottle of Marvel's Mystery Oil made more horsepower.

 

[tony1963tony]

...and the aftermarket company posts record profits while the dream of more power lives on...