On a side topic, has anyone on the board been to China? Does it actually smell like the inside of a Harbor Freight store?
I used to have a set without the latches but with the locking pin. Don't know what happened to them, probably got left behind in one of my moves.I disagree. Its not avoiding the bonehead move that is important, its buying a tool that is safe.
Now I understand why HF (and I predict lots of others) have the recall. Those jackstands HF is selling are death traps. The ones I use have a "chock" or "safety" on the end of the chain. When you find the height you want, you slide the chock into the notch and the jack stand CAN'T collapse. Honestly I thought they all would have this feature but apparently not.
These were no more expensive than HF so like I said, you have to evaluate your needs when deciding whether or not to buy HF. I would NEVER get under a car that was on stands like what HF sells.
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TR6 (nice car BTW -post some pics) is a lot lot lighter than most modern cars except perhaps little hatchbacks.I own four 61196 HF Pittsburgh jack stands, with the optional red rubber pedestal pads.
They were successfully used for 4 years while I slide around under my TR6. They are very strong and have positive locking notches.
I see absolutely no problem with them & I'll keep mine, thank you.
If some idiot happened to kick the pawl arm real hard, while under a supported mass/vehicle, the post could potentially drop to its lowest setting-
honestly that would take a big effort to drop it. You'd really have to kick it super hard to get it to move when it supported weight.
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It doesn't smell like the inside of a Harbor Freight store, or if it did, you couldn't tell because the smog is absolutely off-the-charts horrible. It looks like the very worst days of the California wildfires - all the time.On a side topic, has anyone on the board been to China? Does it actually smell like the inside of a Harbor Freight store?
I wish he'd say "Pawl" instead of "paw", and use a wrench instead of channel-locks, but it was a well-made experiment.Here's the guy that probably prompted the recall. It is a design issue. The pawl relies on downward force to stay engaged. If car is raised it can release pawl. Prob not an issue with our cars, the guy who had this happen had a 914 on them. Around 7:50 he does the actual experiment.
+ 1 Lack of quality control is one reason, grade of steel used another. In my experience Taiwan tools do nicely on a budget.I don't disagree about the quality of Harbor Freight products, but, IMHO, I believe that China has excellent manufacturing capability. However, like most good manufacturers, they build exactly what you want them to. If you want something that is built to a price point like Harbor Freight, URO, or rubber dog sh!t, they will build it for you, but quality is going to suffer and you will get exactly that, rubber dog sh!t. If, on the other hand, you provide them with rigorous specifications, validated processes, and a robust Quality Assurance system, they can manufacture products that are they equal to or better than anything out there. Indeed, if these types of controls had been in place at the Harbor Freight supplier, the worn tool would have been detected/prevented and the recall would have never happened. It's like the old adage says, "you get what you pay for". My company designs and manufactures medical devices and we use some components and tooling sourced from China and we have found this to be true.
I think the real problem is that people have come to expect cheap, merely adequate, and often disposable products from China and elsewhere and they are more than happy to oblige. The Chinese manufacturing base is only responding to market demands. Just my 2¢ worth.
Yeah and when I was young they said the exact same thing about the grade of steel used in Japanese made cars and the general lack of quality control with respect to everything made and imported here from Japan. So you could say......they rallied.+ 1 Lack of quality control is one reason, grade of steel used another. In my experience Taiwan tools do nicely on a budget.
Right on sbaert. NEVER buy anything made of Chinesium. Besides being cheap, probably illegal knock offs, China is becoming our WORST enemy.