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I have H&R springs/Bilsteins and 4 nub Mercedes perches. A bit too low with slight rub. Would like to raise front 1/2 inch without changing tires 225/60/16 which are fine.Where can I find metal/poly spacers for springs. If you have used spacers, I would appreciate your info. Thanks.
 

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I have H&R springs/Bilsteins and 4 nub Mercedes perches. A bit too low with slight rub. Would like to raise front 1/2 inch without changing tires 225/60/16 which are fine.Where can I find metal/poly spacers for springs. If you have used spacers, I would appreciate your info. Thanks.
this is with your front or rear?
 

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this is with your front or rear?
Hi VDUB....Front coils. I was thinking there might be a metal plate, (like a 3/8" thick donut) that could be inserted into the upper rubber perch to slightly raise the front end.

I saw this video that made me think about use of spacer...

 

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Thank you Lucky Mike. Will check it out. Do they come loose if you hit big dip in road?
No. And I've had them in for years. The short ones for the front springs and the taller ones for the rear. I use them to level out the car since the left side sits lower. Yes, I did replace the diff mount which is rumored to cause that lean.

If you decide to use them, they can be very difficult to install if you try to turn them in as designed, even with the wheel hanging and the spring at it's most relaxed without being removed. I usually have a helper pushing on the back of the ratchet wrench to apply inward force to the spacer as I turn it in. Great way to really tweak your back.

Much easier is to use a lever to spread the coil and just insert the spacer directly, not turn it in. Put them both in at the same place then use your lever to open the spring and walk the second spacer around to 180 degrees opposite.
 

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please post a pic of your car

i think your tire sidewall is the issue, your height of tire is taller than stock, and youve lowered the car. Your gonna rub

i run 225/50 with my 16 and HR lowered set up and its proper.

you will ruin your ride with a spacer i think
 

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please post a pic of your car

i think your tire sidewall is the issue, your height of tire is taller than stock, and youve lowered the car. Your gonna rub

i run 225/50 with my 16 and HR lowered set up and its proper.

you will ruin your ride with a spacer i think
225/50/16 vs 225/60/16
section 9.2 vs 9.0
tread 7.5 vs 7.0
diameter 24.9 vs 26.6
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Height seems to be the issue. With HR and 225/50/16 the front end drop is about 3.5 + inches, would be too low for me..I would like 1/2 inch lift with current 225/60/16 and H&R.
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These h r springs on 126 cars are so random. U dropped a lot. My sec didn't drop and I had to cut. My sel was fine.
 

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please post a pic of your car

i think your tire sidewall is the issue, your height of tire is taller than stock, and youve lowered the car. Your gonna rub

i run 225/50 with my 16 and HR lowered set up and its proper.

you will ruin your ride with a spacer i think
FYI...The original tire specs for 85 Mercedes 126 are AS FOLLOWS:
205/70/14
SECTION 8.7
tread 6.7
TIRE DIAMETER 25.8
 

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225/60/16 is totally wrong for lowered cars, that is your problem. Putting in spacers will affect your spring rate .
Try 225/55/16 tires in front
 

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Yeah fyi your an inch to tall and you lowered the car
 

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225/60/16 is totally wrong for lowered cars, that is your problem. Putting in spacers will affect your spring rate .
Try 225/55/16 tires in front
Thanks for input. 225/55/16 have a 25.7 inch diameter and would lower the front end another inch +- . Might eliminate rub but front too low to suit me. I'm thinking 215/60/16 which has specs:
section 8.7
tread 6.8
Diameter 26.1
this gives 1/2 inch more vertical room based on 26.6 diameter current tires.
 

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trust me all your numbers are almost worthless...in real life so many factors....brand of tire, air in there, etc

you post thread and section numbers, i have no idea what they mean.

your springs should not have dropped u 3.5 inches....maybe 2 inches at most.
my sec wears HR with 1/3 cut and nub 1 spacer and its about the same as my SEL with HR not cut and 2 spacer...
 

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People do get random results from lowering springs sometimes. I've never figured out why.

RNT it looks too low at the front and the arse too high doesn't it. How annoying, I don't know what to suggest.

Tyre sidewall make the width different from brand/model to other brand/model, according to posts in threads I've read in the past. Worth searching this out in the archives. Hope that helps you a bit.

Has the car had an MB type alignment? Could also help I guess.
 

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trust me all your numbers are almost worthless...in real life so many factors....brand of tire, air in there, etc
Hi VDUB....Tire specs (tread width, section width and diameter) are all standardized by all manufacturers. Spring results may differ, though.
 

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People do get random results from lowering springs sometimes. I've never figured out why.

RNT it looks too low at the front and the arse too high doesn't it. How annoying, I don't know what to suggest.

Tyre sidewall make the width different from brand/model to other brand/model, according to posts in threads I've read in the past. Worth searching this out in the archives. Hope that helps you a bit.

Has the car had an MB type alignment? Could also help I guess.
Hi IAN....Thanks for input. When I installed H&R, knew it would drop 1.8-2 inches and chose the 225/60/16 to keep diameter as close to original spec. I didn't want to go too low and wanted to avoid a large gap. The rubbing is only front right and slight, not an issue generally. Lifting front end .5 -1.0 inch would be ideal. Can't do it with different tires, though. Back to spacers:)
 

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Annoying isn't it. Been there done that. You might consider custom spring pads. I'm sure someone on here got some made. It will be in the archives no doubt.

On my SEC I put Lorinser springs and it was so low I doubt it could be driven. I made spring pads by cutting the tops of a lower nib set and glueing them with uber strong glue, to a 4 nib pair of spring pads. I wouldn't recommend this really and will change it when I get the car back. It has worked fine though.
 

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Therer is no problem adding in a rubber ring spacer to the top side of the spring pad as Ian suggests.
I have done that in the past and it works a treat by cutting up a 1nib and making your 4nib thicker by 5mm

I also feel you are running the wrong tire up front and at the rear - it should be 225/55/16 all round.
Most with lowered springs are using 225/50/16 but i reckon that tire height is too low
Also by the look of your pic the rear is sitting too high which puts more down force on the front.
If you sort out the rear first so you dont have that front slant happening it will rectify half your problem
 

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The front and back definitely react like that on these cars. More than any other car I know. The front will send the back up or down and vice versa.
 
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