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I would like to change all my filters in my 98 - 163K on the dash. I figured buying from MB dealer would be a little costly, so is there another place I could purchase all the filters for less of a cost. I was considering purchasing 8 qrts of Mobile 1, than having the oil changed than doing the filters my self, also what is the general cost for a ATF, I think I need it:D thank you
 

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air filters, fuel filters, cabin filters, at filters, oil filters for a 98 e320 you can buy either autohausaz.com , mercedesshop.com , or any other site that sells mercedes parts. don';t forget to get the fleece one. oil can be purchased at any autostore in town. atf can be bought at the dealer, along with the at filter kit. all together is a little over / around $100. or you can buy it from the websites, as long as is the mb fluid for 722.6. with your mileage, your car probably needs it.
 

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If you change your ATF you should definitely change the drain pan gasket and the filter. I think those filters are only about $15 from the dealers, and the gasket $2-$3. With that job your highest cost, no matter where you buy it, will be the MB-spec ATF - expect to see that in the $15/qt range, and I think your car will need 8.5 quarts.

My dealer charged me about $200 for a "transmission service" which was a partial drain/refill @ 4 qts, filter, pan gasket, lock pin, and 1.5 hr labor.
 

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If you change your ATF you should definitely change the drain pan gasket and the filter. I think those filters are only about $15 from the dealers, and the gasket $2-$3. With that job your highest cost, no matter where you buy it, will be the MB-spec ATF - expect to see that in the $15/qt range, and I think your car will need 8.5 quarts.

My dealer charged me about $200 for a "transmission service" which was a partial drain/refill @ 4 qts, filter, pan gasket, lock pin, and 1.5 hr labor.

$200 is a great price for the to do transmission service, that I cant do my self, I would only do the reg filter, and pre-purchase the oil than get the oil changed some where else. Thank you for the input once I get the extra cash I will do the oil change first than the ATF, but does all dealers charge $200 for the tranny service?
 

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tirona said:
air filters, fuel filters, cabin filters, at filters, oil filters for a 98 e320 you can buy either autohausaz.com , mercedesshop.com , or any other site that sells mercedes parts. don';t forget to get the fleece one. oil can be purchased at any autostore in town. atf can be bought at the dealer, along with the at filter kit. all together is a little over / around $100. or you can buy it from the websites, as long as is the mb fluid for 722.6. with your mileage, your car probably needs it.

as long as is the mb fluid for 722.6. with your mileage, your car probably needs it.[/QUOTE]

Im still learning what do you mean by this? thank you in advance for repling
 

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that's the specific mb fluid for you transmission. you have 163k miles, which is overdue for an at fluid/filter change. i would probably get the atf changed in the near future if i was you.
 

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whoever you have doing the atf change, don't forget to tell them to drain you torque converter also. i drained about 8 litres of atf all together when i did mine a little bit ago.
 

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$200 is a great price for the to do transmission service, that I cant do my self, I would only do the reg filter, and pre-purchase the oil than get the oil changed some where else. Thank you for the input once I get the extra cash I will do the oil change first than the ATF, but does all dealers charge $200 for the tranny service?
Hey, Sly.

I'm confused by the reference to buying the oil to have it changed elsewhere. I don't know where you are, but lots of dealers do specials on oil changes, and you're not going to save any money by bringing them in a filter and oil. Most in this area charge around $100 to do the oil and filter, indies are a bit more than that, and if you buy the stuff you're looking at $75 or so. FWIW, changing oil on these cars is pretty simple, basic tools plus a filter wrench (you don't need the fancy vacuum unit, look up in the DIY Sticky thread for the pictorial post I did on it). But if you're not going to DIY it just take it in and have it done. By the way, if you do buy the stuff you need 9 quarts of 0W40 Mobil1; if you only put in 8 you'll start off about a half-quart low. Buy the extra, then you have a half-quart to add later.

Take care and enjoy the ride,
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I just changed my oil and filter yesterday

It cost $6.99 per quart for mobil 1 extened performance at pruchased 9 @ 6.99 = $62 plus 14 for the filter. 76 plus tax Grease Monky charges $120. It only takes 20 min and you will need :

rag wrap around the filler to catch spills
4 mm socket to remove the plastic proctecting the oil pan.
8 or 10 mm socket for the drain lug.
Oil dip pan to catch the old oil.
Maybe a filter wrench to remove the filter cap.

This is so easy I will have my 8 year old do it next time.
 

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It cost $6.99 per quart for mobil 1 extened performance at pruchased 9 @ 6.99 = $62 plus 14 for the filter. 76 plus tax Grease Monky charges $120.
Anyone who takes a Mercedes to Grease Monkey should have their car seized by the powers of eminent domain and given to someone who knows -- at a minimum -- how not to abuse a car.

That said, generally I agree. A couple of your nut sizes are off, and you should never use a traditional filter wrench on the composite filter assembly. You can buy a proper wrench (composite is fine and probably preferred for the casual user) for $5 at most auto parts stores. And if you're changing oil by the drain method, you want to include the cost of a new crush washer for the drain plug, about .25 if you buy them from an on-line supplier.

Take care and enjoy the ride,
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????

Are you saying Jiffy Lube can't change the oil in a Chrysler.

Ok its not a Chrysler, its an E320 not really a Mercedes more like the poor mans Mercedes. The E series is more common than Tacos. My E320 has had more problems in 3 years than my 240d has had in 24 years. At least my 98 E320 was built in Stuttgart. It has every option available at the time and cost the 1st owners $47K! They lost $30K in 5 years!

Jiffy Lube did 2 oil changes on my E320 using bottled Mobil 1 and a OEM oil filter. I watched them the entire time and checked the oil level when I got home....perfect, it was even a women who did the work. The only reason I took the car to them was it was part of the deal when I bought the car it came with a 2 year warrenty and free mandatory oil changes, plus she did have a nice rack. I did have to pay for the upgrade to mobil 1. I'm doing the work now because I'm not paying $120 for an oil change. BTW just a few months after the warrenty expired all sorts of nice problems started poping up. CPS, MAS, ABS, belt tensioner, rear window regulators, sun roof. The dealer was out of thier mind for what they were asking for to complete the work.

BTY I've seen some shitty work perfomed by Phil Smart MB in Seattle and have had some very interesting conversations with so called "MB expert techs" which leads me to never drive my car into their shop again.

This agains points to the E series as the "poor mans Mercedes" because E series owners always turn GREEN when the service manager sits you down for the estimate as where other Mercedes class owners just want to know when the car wil be ready or never drive an out of warrenty Mercedes.
 

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...never drive an out of warrenty Mercedes.
I have said this a number of times, and it seems mostly to fall on deaf ears. I learned my lesson the hard way (1st Mercedes was a high mileage one with at least 2 previous owners but it was cheap to buy!) It didn't take me too long, but a lot of money spent on repairs later, and I took a bath on that as a trade-in. One of my mottos: The most expensive car you can buy is a cheap Mercedes.
 

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See transmission fluid change by Dawson in the W210 AMG E55 board great information!
 

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and what kind of boats are the best? Your friends ...Yes you are screwed if you can use a wrench on a MB. I would bet MB hates these forums.
 

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Wow super great information. Me and my friend yesterday was talking about how we wish there was a place we could pay say $10 an hour to work on our own cars. Seeing as we live in an apartment complex its illegal for us to do oil changes our selves. I feel like I could learn and do anything I set my heart and mind too and would be super eager to take a crack at it. For now I hate having to pay some one 75 to 150 an hour for just laybor. I am stuck cuz I will have to take her in shortly for the work and just watch my money float away...its ok I just have to find a place I could trust but now something else came up while I was driving last night that suprised me. But I truely thank everybody for thier response.
 
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