Ford has made a huge comeback in the past years though. My dad was staunch against ford ever since he had a piece of crap pinto or something, but he bought a ford escape. Amazingly nice little suv for the price. and chevy, i don't know about now, but my 1999 cavalier went 150k without anything but regular maintenance, and it totaled two cars that rear-ended it, without having to have a dollar in body work done.I'm sure it would have gone to 250 if I wouldn't have crashed it... Love the old chevy's.