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Since I reside in Canada I have been told by many techs that Freon is no longer available. But as I see on ebay, I can buy it. So should I just buy 2-3 cans of freon or opt for a subsitute product?

If so whats the name of the substitute product?

ps. is R134a a substitue product?
 

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older cars used R12...then the government stepped in and said no more R12 can be manufactured...so you're suppose to convert your ac to use R134a...however if your ac just needs the refrigerant recharged you can order the R12 and save yourself the conversion costs!
 

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I don't know if you have checked prices recently, they want $350 for 30 lbs of R134a. R12 can be had for $425 for 30 lbs. Why has the price of 134a gone up so high?
 

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mykg4orce - 3/22/2005 11:22 AM

Since I reside in Canada I have been told by many techs that Freon is no longer available. But as I see on ebay, I can buy it. So should I just buy 2-3 cans of freon or opt for a subsitute product?

If so whats the name of the substitute product?

ps. is R134a a substitue product?
mykg4orce,

Do a search for r12 in the w201 section and you will see some solutions for this topic. I haven't converted to r134a yet, but I will when I use up my supply of r12. I haven't seen any increase in price of the r134a in the states...still runs about $4 a can at Walmart.

Good luck,

Dave
 

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An entire conversion kit to R134a cost me all of $20 and an hour of my time. In fact, the conversion is so easy it's almost ridiculous to NOT want to convert, because after you do so, the refills are cheeeeeap! It's well worth it!
 

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if you do convert to r134a you will need to completely revover your system, at least 28 hg for thirty minutes.i recommend doing it several times.
r12 systems use a mineral oil lubricant which is in the refrigerant itself.
r134a factory systems use a pag oil but with a retrofit youwill need a POE ( polyol Ester) oil.

all this stuff should be readily avaiilable

don't forget to change your O rings, check if your compressor is compatible with r134a and replace you accumulator dryer or receiver (whichever one your system uses) also don't use black o rings use only the green or blue.
 

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n0alpha - 3/29/2005 9:19 PM

An entire conversion kit to R134a cost me all of $20 and an hour of my time. In fact, the conversion is so easy it's almost ridiculous to NOT want to convert, because after you do so, the refills are cheeeeeap! It's well worth it!
n0alpha,

Would you mind giving us a step by step procedure on how you completed your conversion? Which parts you replaced, O-rings, etc.

Thanks,

Dave
 
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