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1992 500 SEL's fuel economy (according to the "window sticker") is 13/16..... Does anyone have real life data for this particular car? Thank you!
 

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My S320 averages about 17.6 MPG in mainly city driving with a 21 year old behind the wheel. On highway, I've seen 27.6MPG out of it. Still no better than an S500?

not much difference to sacrifice 100 Hp... in a city (about 16mpg) and highway is usualy around 22mpg.....thats my own records
 

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The earlier W140 had different ignition systems, plus full throttle enrichment and different transmission so their milage is less than later ones. That said currently I get 16.5 mpg on mostly highway driving, 15.1 mpg if all city, and best ever was 21 mpg north of LA mostly at 90-100 mph. mpg less that 14.5 usually have resulted in ignition system work of some sort. I've never see the low 13 mph figure and happy to exceed the 16 mph high estimate figure on average over the last 7 years
 

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The posts above make some good points about the early versions. The 120 engine crowds the engine bay and adds complexity to what should be simple tasks like changing the oil and filter. Spin-on filters, pah! That said, the most superficial review of this website will reveal to you that the maintenance issues most owners face have nothing whatever to do with the number of cylinders in the automobile. My experience owning two S600's ('96 and '99) since 2005 is entirely consistent with the maintenance issues addressed on the forum. Aside from the engine and level of equipment (and I do not mean to minimize that difference), a W140 is a W140 is a W140.

And, childish though it is, there is nothing like the feeling of a vehicle about to run out from under you that is peculiar to the S600. You'll smile all day.
Very interesting points made by all.

Our Design and Engineering concepts were focused on a Mercedes machine of spectacular performance, innovative options that are for the most part are standard and that above all else sets the Mercedes above the Dutchland breed of machine.

The only peer automobile that my Team ever related or spoke of in comparison over the years..... although we sure raised a huge array of eye-brows in concept meetings.... This was NOT BMW or any of the Worldwide makes that normally are mentioned....

The S-Klasse is to sit beside the Rolls Royce and feel comfortable... not below, not astride... But Beside of the Rolls..... Yes, lofty ideals and Innovation of spectacular focus is incorporated in the machine that we all are enjoying ownership. It is designed for an autobahn that surpasses the concept of any other freeway system on earth.... no speed restrictions of any kind.... just raw power to the hilt and machines that are designed to be there..... and you own her and love her for what she is and how she makes you feel as well..... Great about ones self! This was the concept that I had in my mind in every darn meeting... and there were plenty. As there still going on with every year. Notice the lines and overall appearance thru the 90's.... things seemed to work well through those years and still hold true.

Enough of my ramblings.... Be kind to yourselves and understand.... you all are a Breed Apart as is the Machine you have chosen to keep intact and functional as engineered. The W-140 has in the early 90's and now in some ways is still being copied by other automakers world wide.... whether it be very small lines, power plant configuration, option orientation and ergonomic innovation and especially the CAN Functional as well as Diagnostic Protocol and system(s)... for the time period she was designed original The 90's S-Klasse was/is years ahead of the market and shook-up alot of people back then! And you help people remember and wonder.... seems People are still always looking and asking questions...... Just ask any Owner! :thumbsup:

Regards, Dietrich!
 

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the M120 V12.....

and yes... i did smile all day when sitting in the car.....

 

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not much difference to sacrifice 100 Hp... in a city (about 16mpg) and highway is usualy around 22mpg.....thats my own records
I never thought of it like that. I guess when you consider the difference in power between the 320 and 500, then the mileage difference doesn't matter quite as much...

Very interesting points made by all.

Our Design and Engineering concepts were focused on a Mercedes machine of spectacular performance, innovative options that are for the most part are standard and that above all else sets the Mercedes above the Dutchland breed of machine.

The only peer automobile that my Team ever related or spoke of in comparison over the years..... although we sure raised a huge array of eye-brows in concept meetings.... This was NOT BMW or any of the Worldwide makes that normally are mentioned....

The S-Klasse is to sit beside the Rolls Royce and feel comfortable... not below, not astride... But Beside of the Rolls..... Yes, lofty ideals and Innovation of spectacular focus is incorporated in the machine that we all are enjoying ownership. It is designed for an autobahn that surpasses the concept of any other freeway system on earth.... no speed restrictions of any kind.... just raw power to the hilt and machines that are designed to be there..... and you own her and love her for what she is and how she makes you feel as well..... Great about ones self! This was the concept that I had in my mind in every darn meeting... and there were plenty. As there still going on with every year. Notice the lines and overall appearance thru the 90's.... things seemed to work well through those years and still hold true.

Enough of my ramblings.... Be kind to yourselves and understand.... you all are a Breed Apart as is the Machine you have chosen to keep intact and functional as engineered. The W-140 has in the early 90's and now in some ways is still being copied by other automakers world wide.... whether it be very small lines, power plant configuration, option orientation and ergonomic innovation and especially the CAN Functional as well as Diagnostic Protocol and system(s)... for the time period she was designed original The 90's S-Klasse was/is years ahead of the market and shook-up alot of people back then! And you help people remember and wonder.... seems People are still always looking and asking questions...... Just ask any Owner! :thumbsup:

Regards, Dietrich!

God it's cool having a W140 design engineer on the site!!!!!!
 

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1992 500 SEL's fuel economy (according to the "window sticker") is 13/16..... Does anyone have real life data for this particular car? Thank you!
340 miles to a tank mixed, 440 on the motorway cruising
 

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My '92 500SEL gets 22 mpg on the highway at 65 with the a/c on. Seems to get slighltly less durring cold weather! My '97 got 23 on its maiden voyage a couple of weeks ago.
 

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My '92 500SEL gets 22 mpg on the highway at 65 with the a/c on. Seems to get slighltly less durring cold weather! My '97 got 23 on its maiden voyage a couple of weeks ago.
Thank you for the data, Greyride.

I am only considering a Benz, so folks please excuse me for any dumb guestion. My Cadillac's driver info center shows instant MPG, average MPG, RPM, Engine Temp, etc. (actually a lot of info). Is such information readily available in early W140s? Thank you!
 

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HUF, this is I~LUV~Caddys8792 from CF. Nice to see another CF member on here!

To answer your question, the W140 does not offer any sort of a trip computer such as on your '91 deVille. The only thing the W140 has like this is an "instant MPG" guage in the instrument cluster.
But on the other hand, the W140 always had full instrumentation...tachometer, speedometer, fuel guage, oil pressure, MPG and coolant temperature. No Cadillac has offered that much information, atleast in analog format, aside from the Escalades.
 

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HUF, this is I~LUV~Caddys8792 from CF. Nice to see another CF member on here!

To answer your question, the W140 does not offer any sort of a trip computer such as on your '91 deVille. The only thing the W140 has like this is an "instant MPG" guage in the instrument cluster.
But on the other hand, the W140 always had full instrumentation...tachometer, speedometer, fuel guage, oil pressure, MPG and coolant temperature. No Cadillac has offered that much information, atleast in analog format, aside from the Escalades.
I I~LUV~Caddys8792 aka W140FTW ))),

Thank you for the input. I have got 91 Seville. There is no analog info of the trip and engine parameters you listed, but the digital ones are one click away right on the driver info center. I am so used to it that thought they would be missed. That's good to know there will be other way yo have that under constant control!:thumbsup:
 

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Oh my bad, I thought you had a deVille, I knew it was something with a 4.9L though!
Yeah, I always thought how cool it was that the Sevilles and Eldorados had all that information readily accessible, they had to disguise it so much on the deVilles that it took away from the fun of it.

Back to the original topic though, what brings you into the land of the S-Class?
 

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Oh my bad, I thought you had a deVille, I knew it was something with a 4.9L though!
Yeah, I always thought how cool it was that the Sevilles and Eldorados had all that information readily accessible, they had to disguise it so much on the deVilles that it took away from the fun of it.

Back to the original topic though, what brings you into the land of the S-Class?
I love my Cadillac and its workhorse 4.9 liter engine. Over eight years it did give me a hard time occasionally, but I handled to fix everything myself. So, that has been a great learning experience.

My former landlady owns a 1992 500SEL with 145.000 miles on the clock. She bought her on ebay some five years ago. The car originally was in TX. I know that at least my landlady babied the car, and it was always stored in garage for winter. She never had any problem with it. Nevertheless, there is no history of the previous ownership at all. I really like the looks, the interior, the built quality, materials, attention to the details and the power of that marvel. It is a stunning automobile! If the price is right I will probably buy it and will keep my Cadillac as a dayly ride.
 

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your all my clowns!!!!

my 2 cents is this children, im nutty. too much 140 to much fiddleing about. my mind is clouded in pot. go to church and try not to obsess about your 140's all day. you have very short time to know god and live longer in heaven. i can tell alot of you are like me and sick for w140. and even having one isnt enough, u have to get aroused by it when u wake up everyday.hahahahaahaaaa
 

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^^^

Here's proof that drugs & the internet don't mix...:rolleyes:
 

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my 2 cents is this children, im nutty. too much 140 to much fiddleing about. my mind is clouded in pot. go to church and try not to obsess about your 140's all day. you have very short time to know god and live longer in heaven. i can tell alot of you are like me and sick for w140. and even having one isnt enough, u have to get aroused by it when u wake up everyday.hahahahaahaaaa
Refreshing input I must say :)
 

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HUF, this is I~LUV~Caddys8792 from CF. Nice to see another CF member on here!

To answer your question, the W140 does not offer any sort of a trip computer such as on your '91 deVille. The only thing the W140 has like this is an "instant MPG" guage in the instrument cluster.
But on the other hand, the W140 always had full instrumentation...tachometer, speedometer, fuel guage, oil pressure, MPG and coolant temperature. No Cadillac has offered that much information, atleast in analog format, aside from the Escalades.

My S600 does have a trip computer which I believe is a rare option.....
 

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Did someone say V12? Thought you guys might like to see this.

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