[TaiwanE50]

Hi there,

I am the new comer from Taiwan.
I own an AMG E50(98),
even through it's an used car..in Taiwan it's still expansive....
I know the e50 with DOHV, NA, 347 hp engine..
comparing with e55 with SHOV, NA, 354 hp..
which one is faster?...

thanks..

Justice in Taiwan

 

[Supercharged SEC]

The E55 is quicker. I think both are limited to around 155 from the factory but the E55 would get there quicker too. Mercedes rates the E55 around 0.6 seconds quicker to 60 mph than the E50. That's a big difference on the street. It's the greater torque on the E55 of around 390 lb-ft to the E50's 357 lb-ft that gives it much better acceleration.

 

[TaiwanE50]

Dear SEC
thank you for your prompt reply,
anyway, e50 still a good car..
but I still considering the supercharge on it
the price ic high...how about the superchip?
I mean is the superchips worth or not?

Justice

 

[roro]

Hi! I have an E50 AMG myself. The differences between E50 and E 55 are just 7 bhp more for the E55.
However the old V8 is better and stronger than the new one. Furtermore the E50 is more rare than the E55. Top speed is the same for both and 0-100km/h is 5.4sec. for E55 and 5.9 for E50.

 

[uwish351]

Hi, l also have a E50 AMG, if you check a previous posting called " E50 1/4 mile times" you will see a little more of the car.
l have had powerchip re-map the car, installed a K&N air filter and opened up the exhaust a little. The car does 0 to 60mph in 4.9sec and the best 1/4 mile time l have had was 13.6sec and that has with a full tank of petrol. My car leaves any non supercharged E55 for dead, even the ones that have been re-maped, and even gives the new ones a run for there money. l have heared so much talk about E55 being faster than E50 but what l do know is, that when the flag drops the bullshit stops. Good luck with your new car...

 

[Supercharged SEC]

My car leaves any non supercharged E55 for dead, even the ones that have been re-maped, and even gives the new ones a run for there money. l have heared so much talk about E55 being faster than E50 but what l do know is, that when the flag drops the bullshit stops. Good luck with your new car...

That's considerably faster than a stock E50 but still not as fast as what an E55 will run. I'd imagine that if you are beat an E55 their MAF was bad, they had crappy tires and got no traction, or they just were not experienced in drag racing. However, yes, in a race, a slower car can win against a faster car given different conditions and the driver's skill level.


http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-E55-AMG-Timeslip-1978.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-E55-AMG-Timeslip-117.html

 

[coolcarlskiC43]

uwish351 - 4/27/2005 9:22 AM

My car leaves any non supercharged E55 for dead, even the ones that have been re-maped, and even gives the new ones a run for there money. l have heared so much talk about E55 being faster than E50 but what l do know is, that when the flag drops the bullshit stops.

And then you woke up!!!!!!

 

[HarleyB]

uwish351 - 4/27/2005 9:22 AM
l have had powerchip re-map the car, installed a K&N air filter and opened up the exhaust a little. The car does 0 to 60mph in 4.9sec and the best 1/4 mile time l have had was 13.6sec and that has with a full tank of petrol. My car leaves any non supercharged E55 for dead, even the ones that have been re-maped, and even gives the new ones a run for there money. l have heared so much talk about E55 being faster than E50 but what l do know is, that when the flag drops the bullshit stops.

You really do need to put down the crack pipe.

 

[uwish351]

l think it is funny, how so many of you make statments about the E50 AMG as if you are some sort of expert, l would bet that most of you have never heard of an E50 let alone seen one. Maybe you should actually listen to the limited few who actually have one, and can speak from experiance. Try having a look at "dragtimes.com" at a real 1/4 mile time, and not some arm chair no it all bull shit. Well thats my 5c worth. Enjoy your cars.....

 

[Storm]

As far as I've seen the difference is not even noticeable but given the choice i'd either take an E50 or the even rarer E60 (perhaps even an E36). E55's are great cars but they are also a dime a dozen. Till now i've only been a passenger in an E50, but it has MAJOR potential (as does the 55).

 

[E55pvan]

Less then 2,000 built over a four year period at $75,000+ each for 210 E55's clearly demonstrates they ain't "dime a dozen".

What does 390lbs. of E-55 torque versus 357lbs. of E50 torque in the same vehicle mean? Answer; just apply Newtons Law of Physics F=ma and the answer is greater torque will result in faster rotation of the drive shaft.

 

[Storm]

E55pvan - 7/12/2005 4:37 PM

Less then 2,000 built over a four year period at $75,000+ each for 210 E55's clearly demonstrates they ain't "dime a dozen".

When compared to the E50 & E60 they are pretty common (specially in central London).

 

[uwish351]

If only life worked the same as it would on paper, then this would be a much better world to live in. Unfortunatly Newtons law is not as simple as you may make it out to be, there are many other factors to take into account. Torque is about pulling power and not speed, let us not forget that it is important how the Torque is produced and what area it is produced in, that will make the world of difference. Finally the E55 & E50 are not the same car, far from it, completly different engines, producing totaly different power curves. Externally they may look similar but they are very different in many ways.
Enjoy....

 

[E55pvan]

FACT: The E-50 is a fast car just not as fast as a same year E-55 due to the greater torque (accross the whole curve) of the E55.

I am done trying to share facts with u-wish and a few others, because it appears they choose to continue just wishing their own answers to be true regardless of the facts.

OK Storm if 2,000 for the whole world over 4 years is "dime a dozen" then I guess your right.

I'm not on this board to argue I'm hear to learn and share... but facts do prevail for me.

 

[uwish351]

Thanks for your version of Fact, E55Pvan. But it seem that you are some what misguided. MB produced 3000 E50 & 12000 E55. http://www.mercedes-benz.co.za/pc/Featuresites/2004/AMGHistory/default.htm
Check the site AMG History, l think we can safely call this official site, FACT!!!
E50 produces 347BHP/ 255kw. & E55 354BHP/ 260kw.
As has been said by others before the differance on paper is very slight.

l can surf the web just as well as anyone. As l have said before, it it funny how many arm chair experts there are out there. Opinion is what makes the world go round and l am glad for it. But let us not confuse opinion for Fact!! l am not suggesting that one car is better than another, But as far as Track speed goes l can only speak about what l have seen or tested myself. Enjoy...

 

[E55pvan]

My dealer told me that 2,000 were made over 4 years, I now stand corrected, thanks.

An e55 outruns an e50 and even if uwish it was different, this still remains a fact.

 

[Fast55]

Those were total production figures. Only about 500 of each model year made it to the States, so your dealer was probably quoting import figures. And as previously stated, the torque difference is what makes the 55 faster than the E50 in a drag race. No arm chair required to figure that out.

 

[MechEng]

The facts are that there were 12k E55's produced but 2k sold in the U.S. (500 per year) that does not make them a dime a dozen in the expanse that is the United States. The 0-60 time for the E50 is ~6 seconds while it is on the order of 5 seconds for the E55. To me that means the E55 blows the E50 out of the water. The only way the lower torque in the E50 would even the playing field with the E55 is if the automobile were lighter to make up for the difference. Yes the E50 is a great car and yes it is rarer than the E55 however the comparisons of rarity to performance are different arguments. The E50 was produced from only 96-97 but the E55 is quicker. Choose one; a very hard to come by performance car (E50) or a slightly less difficult, but still rare, car with increased performance (E55).

 

[MechEng]

"Fast55" beat me to the post []

 

[uwish351]

Thanks for all your input guys, it is great to see your passion. l belive AMG make awsome cars in any shape or size. With out over stateing the obvious, there is performace specs Claims, at the fly wheel, at the rear wheel, at the brochure and on the test track, and l know which one l place the most weight on..... enjoy.