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As I recall, the discussion about the actual month of production of a given G, can not be determined by data on the vehicle, such as a number plate, or digit within the VIN, etc.

I donot recall anyone making it clear if the serial vin number offers any other indirect message about date of production either.

However, while looking at the production figures for each year of both the MB and Puch G (as contained in the book, "The Legend Keeps on Driving...") it seems as though one could get a rough estimate of the production date, IF the last string of numbers in the VIN are a continious run of vehicle numbers from 000001 to nth, and if the MB and Puch versions did not use a different sequence of numbers. Reasoning thusly, and knowing that the production for 1979 was 2,811, and 7,533 for 1980, and the vin number of a given vehicle ended with 003156, for example, one could conclude that the vehicle was built early in 1980.

Does anyone know of a source of more percise production data by month? And/Or, if DCAG offers an online service that will search a serial number for production date, location of sale, etc. I attempted to use the MBNA vin number search, but they essentially told me that gray market autos need not apply.[:(!]

I am trying, as the second owner, to piece together a complete history of my vehicle. The original owner is cognitively no longer avaiable, and the family of the first owner can offer only sketchy details of where he bought it and when he imported it. I do have the first and subsequent registions in WA State (USA) from Jan 1981 to the present.

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Just a few notes:

Mercedes and Puch badged Gs have two different sequences in their VIN numbering.

The production figures for each year contained in the book, "The Legend Keeps on Driving" are ONLY for Mercedes-badged Puchs.

Thus, it is possible to calculate what chassis number would the last Mercedes-badged G produced have in a given year, as follows:

1,979 2,508
1,980 9,175
1,981 15,630
1,982 22,196
1,983 27,858
1,984 34,497
1,985 42,367
1,986 49,592
1,987 57,184
1,988 64,609
1,989 70,319
1,990 79,634
1,991 88,326
1,992 95,398
1,993 101,066
1,994 105,372
1,995 110,776
1,996 114,612
1,997 117,960
1,998 122,159
1,999 126,136
2,000 130,562
2,001 136,705
2,002 145,777
2,003 152,922

At least with this anyone can know when were their Gs made (not first registered).

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Same thing can be done for Puch-badged Gs:

1,979 303
1,980 1,169
1,981 1,664
1,982 2,147
1,983 2,641
1,984 3,328
1,985 4,143
1,986 4,992
1,987 5,503
1,988 5,966
1,989 6,816
1,990 9,604
1,991 12,452
1,992 13,908
1,993 15,354
1,994 16,390
1,995 17,846
1,996 19,869
1,997 20,312
1,998 20,707
1,999 21,004
2,000 22,044
2,001 22,044
2,002 22,044
2,003 22,044

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Mortinson,

Thank you. This is very helpful. By dividing the year's production by 12, I can get a fair sense of the actual month of production. Very helpful.

Happy motoring!

Tom
 

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Well, I got a tip from a norwegian MB-guru, not a G-guru thought. He said that by going by the SECOND number in your "order number"("auftrags-nummer") in your data card you'll find the build year of your MB.
My fathers 280 GE for example has "order number"
6 6 555 39002 of wich the second "6" indicates the 6th year in a decade, I guess they mean you'll never judge 10 years of[:D]
The next three digits are supposed to be a dealer code, in the case of my fathers 280 GE "555" is by the excelent russian de-coder (http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/code/?lng=eng) translated into "Norway". My 300 GD has order no. 6 1 287 000009, meaning it's buildt in 1981, 287 translates to "authorities sales", which makes me wonder where and who this car first served.
 

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Very, very helpful...thanks for bringing this up Thomas. I can now determine that my 1980 240GD,with a date of first registration in Germany of SEP 1980, and a build sequence number of 3145, was probably manufactured sometime very early in 1980. Any idea if Mercedes (or anyone else) would give me an "official" letter to back this up? Any idea who to write to? I only ask because the guys at the Military Vehicle processing center are vehement that they will not ship a vehicle that is less than 25 years old--and they are going by month, not model year. I'm leaving soon! Sure would be nice not to have to pay a private shipping company. Another benefit of shipping via the government is the fact that my US Army Europe license plates will be good for a while stateside. That'll buy me time to work the US titling/registration. Thanks
 

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The Mercedes Classic Center in Stuttgart offers a birth certifictate
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mbcom/international/international_website/en/com/international_home/home/heritage/classicservices.html
(can't find the page where they offered the certificate)
 

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I found it and tried copying and pasting the URL below (it is there):

http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mbcom/international/international_website/en/com/international_home/home/heritage/classicservices.html
 

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sorry for the same URL as Harald, I thought I copied it so it would take you to the picture Harald has..it is there.
Rich[:I]
 

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ok, click on the link above.
Click on Classic Center.
Then click on Corporate archives.
Look at very bottom of page.
Rich[:)]
 

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but it costs 100 Euros, per the website.

but when you follow through to order the documents, you find that it will cost 100 Euros (what's that now, about US$130 or so???)!
 

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Harald and GreenG,

Thanks for the site. Really an interesting visit. I plan to send in my vehicle information and my 100 Euros to see what I get.

When I tried this with MBNA they gave me the "gray market" cold stare.

Thanks!

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Authorities sale means direct sale to Government Military or NGO the No should tell you which branch
 

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RE: Iver

That is super-interessting, do you know how I can find out more about which branch 287 represents? The car was imported to Norway in 1985 and I've got a list of owners since then, but it would be cool to know who ordered this once relatively spartan 240 GD.
 
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