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I'd say Doubtful.
That appears to be nothing less than the remains of a
Rhodesian Unimog . Desert racing ? I think only a myth.
There is a posted thread on the Rhodesian modifications
To Unimogs .
They had to run mined/ ambushed roads and responded
Accordingly.
There was a big push to pave the main routes, so that
Any sign of digging a hole to plant a mine would be more
Evident. The bad guys responded by digging a hole in the
Pavement, and planting a pile of Elephant dung over
The scar.
I'll bet you a cold Pilsner in Bitburg that this is an ex-
Military, almost certainly Rhodesian, Unimog .

It could be (but I doubt it ... - I'm looking on a phone...
) the remains of a Buffalo - South African Unimog.
Same difference in a way -no racing heritage .
The thing is, if I recall correctly, the Rhodesian Unimogs
Had a centered , armored cab, whereas the South African
Buffalo ( buffel) cabs were offset, in the standard Unimog
Driving position. This one Is centered,so therefore Rhodesian,
but I'm
Flying a bi-plane into Lukla with a load of RPGs , while I
Dodge traffic on the 405, As I'm reloading the hookah,
While I'm trying to reload the mag for the BAR, and
Check the ice in the cooler....so I can't be sure...And I'm
In the Ford, and I think the hubs are still locked...and the
Guy with the replacement seer for the Ma Deuce better
Be at Lukla... Goodness knows why he might have
Holed up in Namche ...?

Not to say some lunatic could not have entered a race
With what you see here....
But I refer back to Bitburg.




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GOODAMMIT ! Looka Dat Friggin' DASHBOARD !
Good ting da Coola Ice is Good and de Hookak is
Blazing' !
Stars and skies .
 

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1942 Beechcraft Staggerwing and that's a $$$$ piece of wood. Whole thing is like new and sounds soo good. It is my Father in laws baby he has over two thousand hours in it been around the world a couple times. The gear retracts and it ll do 200 MPH and turn on a dime. His other Beechcraft has twin 750 hp radials that sip 60 gallons a hour.:)
 

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John--are you drinking 12 oz glasses of--- KALEFORNEA wine again??? Or just plain old Jack Daniels?

I called Arnold and got his e-mail--sent him pix of my ambulance and invited him and his new SBU to CALICO Mogfest-- Oct-12-13-14.--- I wonder if he will respond?
Tlane
 

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Nope- no drinking at all...
Just rolling with it....
The Hunter Thompson Unimog idea...
Just goofing off....

Working , working , working ,
Maybe a beer at the end of the day.
But not yet, since you asked....
Although the dusk is coming....
Work first always,
A cold one after, sometimes.
Jack Daniels ? Puleeze......
Big beautiful boiling thunderheads-to-be over the San Gabriels .
 

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Good fun:D and at the end of a productive day I like a cold one too.:thumbsup:
 

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The Internet can be a funny place.
The Rhodesian information was accurate, as far as I know,
The rest , patois , weapons and all, was colorful
Embellishment or invention
That is a beautiful airplane.
That is an ex-military Unimog chassis.
Any thunderheads visible to the East of Fresno,
Over the Sierras ?
That is a question.
 

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Yeah I could agree with that too. --although I don't smoke. But I do like my red wine and also brandy--no Jack Daniels for me either. If it is the fruit of the vine --it's good for you.
But on a really hot day--like today 103--a cold brew or 2 is good. A mog work day requires a few of --something-- on a hot day. It was 106 here yesterday so it can be tuff.
Good old KALEFORNEA hot summer time in the valley.
Tlane
 

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There are thunderheads east of Fresno all day today near the Sierras--muggy and hot. I was going to do some mog mechanix stuff but ended up taking my grnadsons for a mog ride instead.
 

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Dead Mog

It looks like an early example of a "Buffel" a mine proofed open top personnel carrier from the SADF. I spent some time in one and the Army has sold of a lot of these. They came out with the 352 motor and are 416 type mogs if I remember correctly. I think the bug lights were a later addition.
 

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I agree about the lights. I'm looking for a photo of the
Centered cab Rhodesian Unimog , which was used as
The first vehicle in the convoy. Sooner or later, I think
I will find it.
 

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In my opinion no-
Windshield Is different- flush panel on black one, appliqué panel on SA version
Bumper and radiator braces different.
The black one matches the one in the profile shot I sent you.
Still sorting through 60 more pages to find a better shot of the Rhodesian Unimog.
 

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OK, I am going to revise my position on the Dead Unimog- I think it could very well be, uh, probably, might be what remains of a SA
Buffel. I can't find a good picture of what I remember seeing, and it closely resembles the
Buffel cab. It is centered,somewhat (?),but at least one SA Buffel was, as shown in Trev's photo. The radiator braces and plate windshield could have easily been removed.
And....I'm not so sure the Namibian one is actually centered.

However, The photo I found
( not posted yet ) of what I remember, from a Rhodesian Bush War site shows the same thing.,
But is identified as a Rodesian Armored car....although it is almost identical to a Buffel...
Plus, the truck in the BG shows the distinctive Rhodesian Camo, which they also used on their
416's , so that would tend to place the Rhodesian "Buffel " in Rhodesian service.
Another thing weighing in on the Rhodesian Buffel is the Camo- I think every photo I have
Come across of a SA Buffel shows a solid color, with no Camo...
I know it doesn't really matter, but I do want to get it right. Part of the perils of looking at a phone
Sized screen, especially an old fashioned iPhone 4s , with it's handy but smaller screen...

The Dead Unimog cab is very close to a SA Buffel, but not identical to some shots I have
Of a cab in a field in Namibia . There is no stalk for the wiper, and the hinged compartment
At the leading edge looks to have two separate hinges, rather than the large scale barrel
Hinge in the other photos.
They were all shop built items, so some variations are to be expected, not to mention the many years since service, which would allow for any number of modifications...
In short- I am not positive at the moment.
It is clear, however, that this Unimog was modified for military service.

Thanks Trev for posting the photos.

The 7th photo shows what is identified as a Rhodesian Armored Unimog - note both the Camo job
On it, as well as the distinctive Rhodesian Camo pattern on the modified truck in the BG. Note that you can make out an armored glass appliqué plate on the Rhodesian Buffel.
Maybe the Buffel first was developed in Rhodesia, then further developed in South Africa, or
The identification of the thing as a Rhodesian armored car is incorrect, despite the Camo?
I know I read a story about the development of the vehicle, along with the paving of the
Roads and the elephant dung, so maybe I'll be able to find that bit again, and at least convince myself one way or another...
 

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I have these in my library (amongst others) - don't ask !
The Rhodesians used Landrovers a Lot ! They were also the first to developed the V-hull concept - not South Africa as some think.
 

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