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Hey guys, I have some questions which would be appreciated if I could get some help with. I got my S Class recently and am in love with it, but after recently going to my Dealership and looking at an '05 E320 w/ Sport Package, and most importantly, 100K Warrantee....Along with the better Gas Mileage with these unfortunate prices, I'm weighing my options. The S is out of Warrantee which really scares me.

I know the early E's had major reliability issues much like the early W220's, but I've been told 05+ are much more reliable, is this true? Also, if anyone has had or has any knowledge on whether as a whole, the W220 or W211 is a more expensive car to "operate" reliability wise, that would help alot.

And lastly, I know the E-Class is a very safe car, but it got a frontal crash rating of 4 Stars, I dunno, I just assumed an E should be 5 Stars all the way around? Just curious if anyone knows any specifics on why it got 4 Stars that would be appreciated.

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I'd focus on 07+ up E350's. That was the first year of the face-lift. The car looked a whole lot better and was much more reliable. 05 was the first semi-reliable year, 06 was better, 07 even better.
 

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as far as from what i've been told by my dealer is the engine displacement. why i don't know and i think its BS. The Chief SA said it had to do with the V6 being the smaller and the V8 filling up the bay a bit more. like i said i think its BS.

what i do know is my 01 corolla has a 4 star and my 98 as well. when that car crashed into a wall at 55MPH it did fairly well also considering it slid into a metal barrier after that. the dang little thieves that stole it survived. im not really worried since the 04 W211 i have now has side airbags and is waaaaaaaay better engineered than my other cars......sorry for going a bit off topic.
 

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Thanks. I dunno, going back and forth in the ol' mind about the whole situation. I will say, IMO the E-Classes with Sport Package are soooo much sharper looking than the regulars, which are also nice cars, but if I were to pick up one, I would really love to opt for the Sport, which the one I was looking at fortunately has.

My budget seems to be most fitted with an '05, I'd love to save some $$ and get a lower Mileage '03 or '04, but if they are the least reliable of the bunch, I'll only focus on '05+

Yeah, that 4 Star Frontal thing just irks me, I mean I'm not doubting this cars Safety, but just find it wierd MB would allow it to roll off the assembly line with anything but 5??

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Yeah, that 4 Star Frontal thing just irks me, I mean I'm not doubting this cars Safety, but just find it wierd MB would allow it to roll off the assembly line with anything but 5??

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Are you referring to some US rating or the EURO NCAP (if those are different)? I believe 4 was the maximum when W211 was introduced. Later on tests for pedestrian safety were added and things like seat belt reminders (which you hate but still hate 4 stars while 5 is impossible without the reminder :rolleyes:) now give additional points.

Pedestrian safety is more or less a joke in the US, where can you hit a pedestrian when all are driving a car :D. Anyway, W211 might not even be very good with that, later cars have hood structures and pop-up hoods that make it "softer" for a pedestrian to face the car. Glad to hear that you are so concerned about fellow people. ;)

Also note that a collision with a 4 star Corolla and a 4 star MB doesn't mean both are equally protected. It would only be in a case where the cars are of equal size.
 

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Thanks, yeah that's what I was looking for, basically if there were other, non car-safety related stuff that would hurt the point. I do think the 5 Star was available at that time though since the car got a 5 Star Side Rating and 5 Rollover Rating, but it would make sense about the Pedestrian thing huring the Frontal Rating perhaps. I think it was the US Rating, it's the one that shows on the Cars Window Sticker and you can see it at the Carfax Safety Website.
 

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Nice, thanks. Yeah I remember seeing that Article, although it does state it's rated for the 00-03 Models, but I doubt M-B would make the new body less-safe. Crazy to see how that E got a higher rating than the S!!
 
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