[CaliSwede]

The check engine light came on, on my 91 500SL, and i checked the code with the self diagnostic pushbutton and it gave me code 17. Code 17 is according to the CS1000
Fault Code Scanner pdf "Oxygen sensor signal wire shorted to positive or ground". I installed a new OEM Oxygen sensor and reset the code. The CEL went away for a day or two but came back again. Again with code 17. Any ideas what the problem could be?

 

[CaliSwede]

Any ideas anyone? I also have a rough idle especially when the car is cold, any connection to the code 17

 

[gdmarques]

I have the exact same problem

'92 500sl. Code 17, with rough idle and stumble accelerating off idle. I replaced the O2 sensor and was good for 2 days and then check engine light came back on and same code 17, although the car is still running much better since I replaced the sensor.

Did you ever figure out what the problem was with your car?

 

[aam]

If you have 02 sensor wires short to ground, like touching the drive shaft.
It may damage the module up stream.
Can't remember module location and part number.

Regards,
aam.

 

[gdmarques]

No visible short on O2 wires under car

Thanks for the quick reply. When I changed the O2 sensor last weekend the old one was still properly installed, with the two plastic cable clips holding the sensor wires away from the driveshaft. I installed the new one using the same clips. I did notice that the three pin connector felt a little loose to me in the socket even after the plastic locking ring was turned into the locked position. I was wondering if this was normal or if possibly I did not get the connector seated properly. I'm going to get under there again this saturday and double check that. I was thinking that if it had come loose the rough running would have returned with the check engine light, but the car is still running well. Prior to changing the sensor it stumbled hard off of idle and even from a slow speed if I snapped open the throttle too quickly.

 

[vwags]

I have the exact same problem on my Dad's car. Code 17, found bad O2, replaced O2, ran better but light and code back in a couple days but running better still.

Thoughts?

Thanks

 

[gdmarques]

I still have not figured this out and it is driving me nuts. Can is running great otherwise. Anyone have any ideas other than wires grounded to driveshaft (which is definitely not the case with mine.) Fuse on overload relay is good also. I have not replaced the relay itself. Anyone know what the part number is for the module which reads the O2 signal?

 

[crickle]

I will join the Code 17 club.
My 1990 500SL is doing this as well. Severe bogging down after quarter throttle. Sometimes, something "clicks in" and it runs normally.
I wish I knew where the wires go (I know they are under the passenger footwell.)
Does it lead to the MAS, or Overload, or the main ECU??

 

[bobterry99]

Severe bogging down after quarter throttle.

I don't think code 17 has anything to do with this.

The consequence of code 17 is that your fuel mixture control is "open loop", and the engine controller is not tweaking the mixture in accord with the signal from the oxygen sensor.

I wish I knew where the wires go...

I don't know which wires you refer to.

 

[crickle]

I don't think code 17 has anything to do with this.

The consequence of code 17 is that your fuel mixture control is "open loop", and the engine controller is not tweaking the mixture in accord with the signal from the oxygen sensor.

I don't know which wires you refer to.

I mean, I don't know where to test continuity of the wires from the oxygen sensor, to...where?

I suppose I could replace the O2 sensor AGAIN...

 

[luiher]

Hello,

I have the same problem: CODE 17 and also I have %CO & %HC very high i nthe smoke of the car. Also I have replaced the O2 sensor and I have the same problem.

Best Regards.

Luis

 

[bobterry99]

I mean, I don't know where to test continuity of the wires from the oxygen sensor, to...where?

You remove the electrical connector to the fuel injection controller and measure resistance between it's sockets #13 and #32. It should be infinite. Then you measure resistance from #13 to the socket to which the oxygen sensor's black wire goes on it's electrical connector. It should be less than 1 ohm.

 

[luiher]

Hello bobterry99,

sorryo ,could you share some images about what you said it, because I can not understand, I know where is the fuel injection controller, but i do not know where is the socket 13 and 32.

Best Regards and Thank you.

Luis

 

[bobterry99]

The layout of the sockets on the female electrical connector is shown near the bottom of this web page: http://manual.startekinfo.com/manual/JSP/e2/2_1/m22.jsp.