I checked out wikipedia about the Mercedes-Benz ML. They even know our heartaches with this machine...
Mercedes-Benz M-Class - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mercedes-Benz M-Class - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
CHECK TIHS OUT! Even Wikipedia Knows
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"...The back was commonly referred as a shoebox so Daimler Chrysler spent most of their $600 million dollars on redesigning that part."
That's a lot of dough for a tailgate, bumper, and brake lights!! :wtf:
ML450? Never heard of it...
Alabama Mercedes? Well you have BMW, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, et al. all building cars where labor is cheapest in the U.S.
I know five people that also have 1999 models of various makes (Honda, Ford, GM) and guess what? They have had more things needing repair than I have. Even though MBs are more expensive to own relative to many other brands, the quality level I have experienced owning my one ML is better than any other car I have owned in my life (except for a GEO Prizm I slummed in after college). And I mean nothing ever needed repair not that it was a better vehicle or ride in any way other than cost to own.!
cal45fan said:
"...The back was commonly referred as a shoebox so Daimler Chrysler spent most of their $600 million dollars on redesigning that part."
That's a lot of dough for a tailgate, bumper, and brake lights!! :wtf:
ML450? Never heard of it...
Alabama Mercedes? Well you have BMW, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, et al. all building cars where labor is cheapest in the U.S.
I know five people that also have 1999 models of various makes (Honda, Ford, GM) and guess what? They have had more things needing repair than I have. Even though MBs are more expensive to own relative to many other brands, the quality level I have experienced owning my one ML is better than any other car I have owned in my life (except for a GEO Prizm I slummed in after college). And I mean nothing ever needed repair not that it was a better vehicle or ride in any way other than cost to own.!
May I ask when you took delivery? And what the build date on the ID plate was?Kajtek1 said:
Funny how the MY is different from the actual year they build them these days. Like "2007 GL500" was on sale last year.
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You and I can edit Wikipedia articles. There's an "Edit" button after every section. I just read it over and there are A LOT of errors. The $600 million figure comes up several times regarding different issues, so I'm skeptical of the validity of that part. A lot of smartasses editing the articles too.
But I changed it back.
I'm just waiting for an MB believer to edit the piece making read it as though the ML is automotive perfection - you know the type of person (there's a few on every MB forum) who thinks MB can do no wrong and is still the worlds premier auto manufacturer.
Most people who drive or ride in my ml are surprised that it has over 110k miles. And say they feel more safe than in their lexus or acura. Once in Brooklyn, this dude in an x5 yelled out, 'new ml's suck!'. Oh well, mine is over 5 years old. Let them hate. I still love my car.
That's right!
As much as we hear about owners bitching about their MLs, it's nice when you own one and other people think your ride is sweet--as much as you do. I'm at 108K miles and despite being built EIGHT years ago--many people I encounter think it's brand new!! How many owners of '99s can say that? I'm not hating on any brand I'm just in agreement that if you step back and look at all of the positives of our experience and the fun we have had. Man I can't imagine being happier in any other vehicle (excluding one's I can't afford anyway). And because nothing out there is wetting my whistle I'll just keep on truckin'.onesixthree said:
Natural Human Response
It is normal for humans to be biased towards a product if it's their own unless the product is woefully inferior. We are on a ML web site so we would tend to defend the ML because we're owners. It's the same thing as having a fight with your brother. You will fight him without thinking about it but if someone outside the family wants to fight him, you join it to defeat the outside party. Personally, I think every vehicle has it's issues, ML included. I am, however, a happy ML500 owner, issues and all!!
It is normal for humans to be biased towards a product if it's their own unless the product is woefully inferior. We are on a ML web site so we would tend to defend the ML because we're owners. It's the same thing as having a fight with your brother. You will fight him without thinking about it but if someone outside the family wants to fight him, you join it to defeat the outside party. Personally, I think every vehicle has it's issues, ML included. I am, however, a happy ML500 owner, issues and all!!
You're right!
Not to mention the other mind psychosis such as delusion et al. We covet what we know and are close to. We can be stubborn and proud and bias and prejudice and live in denial. All wonderful human stuff! Well I'm going to admit to all of the above and even blindness to the belief I could have done better owning lots of other substitute models. But I own this one and I will fight to defend the haters. Even in my state of ignorant bliss!jrgthird said:
I was rear-ended in Huntsville last year by a young dude on a cell phone in a Camry. He hit my trailer hitch (with the rubber cover) and tore the bumper on his car. He was terrified. He said he didn't mean to hit my new Mercedes. I said, "Aw shit, man. That thing's not new! It's 6 years old and has 150,000 miles on it." He was, to say the least, astounded. It didn't put a scratch on mine but I bet he had to get a new bumper for his.LOCHS 2 said:
I still don't have but two small dings in it, a couple or three knicks and it shines like a new dime.
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