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Hi guy!

Does anyone know where I can buy the necessary CAN BUS,
Insertion Harness and Gerate Adapter to complete the navigation retrofit in a 99 ML?

Or does anyone have one for sale? I'd rather buy used than new.

Thanks!
SAM
 

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Mike-

I did finally see that then. Did a quick search with part numbers and still can't find anyone that sells them. I'm starting to think I will never find them!

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They are hard to find on the internet. I would call a dealer or try Potomac Salvage.
 

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Thanks for the idea. I will give Potomac Salvage a try!
 

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Wouldn't it be less expensive and also more useful (meaning faster GPS lock and better mamps) to fit a aftermarket unit in your ML ?

It's not like the W163 nav is noteworthy so you know.

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It's really funny that you mentioned an aftermarket unit, because I know that's what I should be doing. But I'm a purist at heart and just don't like the idea of aftermarket. Should I though, yes. Will I, no.

I really wanted to see if I can do it. I like the challenge and I believe I can do it, so I want to try to do the retrofit. Also, I really don't need navigation that much. I don't use my car to travel and, not to toot my own horn, I'm a walking navigation system for most of Southeastern PA (thanks mom for the sense of direction)!! I guess in the long run, it's just the challenge of the retrofit that drives me to do it!!
 

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As I have PM'ed you before, you can buy from these guys (MB dealer) for about $200 and change. Search the parts using just the numeric part number, i.e. skip the letter "B"

http://www.primepartssuperstore.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=215236

Your cost with shipping:

http://www.primepartssuperstore.com/shoppingcart/index.cfm?action=viewCart&siteid=215236

I don't think you can find any used easily. These parts will be ordered directly from Germany and will take a week or two to get them. When I have my ML, I purchased a lot of parts from them, very trustworthy and reliable. Too bad you missed the boat, I sold mine before you started looking.
 

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Wow! I remember that PM and when I searched, I couldn't find the parts. I didn't know you had to leave out the B! Ah, just placed the order!

$203 + $20 for shipping = $223

So pumped, thanks so much!
 

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Well, I got an email this morning from Prime Parts Superstore saying that the parts are no longer available. I guess my search is back on to find them.
 

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Your desire to remain true to stock config is noble, but the fact that nearly every thread on the MCS nav talks about how slow/inaccurate/clunky it is are all based on fact. The MCS is early 90s technology.

The improvement in GPS nav product since then is significant, and the cost is down to around $700 for a unit that provides great GPS function plus iPod integration plus AM/FM/XM [+$100 for the receiver add-on] + reversing video if you want it.

Standard double DIN form factor fits perfectly in the MCS slot with very minor tweaks, and looks very nice. Someone posted recently that a nice shop install cost him $400, and many listers here have done it themselves with great results.

Just give it some thought. Going to a lot of trouble to retrofit an MCS may be noble, but the results may be far from satisfying.
 

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You know, I really hate you (not really) for being my voice of reason that I don't/didn't want to give into. I probably should think a lot more about going with an aftermarket unit. I'm a college kid (so I have limited cash flows) and a finance major (money conscious/money savvy) so it would probably make a lot more sense realistically.
 

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Given you are a full time student, thats even more reason to be pragmatic about this spend. My best advice is get a decent Android phone. Models like the HTC Incredible [VZW] and Evo [Sprint] have killer GPS performance, turn-by-turn, good nav screens, great music playback via bluetooth, and more. You don't need to spend a dime on the MCS.

What audio/radio do you have in the car at present?
 

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That's another great idea. I never actually thought of using my phone for navigation.

As for the system, it's just the Bose system that came with the car.
 

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So, if you're really jonesing for a new audio fix keep an internet watch for a decent single DIN head unit with bluetooth and an iPod adaptor if you want. The bluetooth will give you phone, nav, and tunes from your smartphone.

So long as you have a DIN unit with a DIN mounting bracket, the transplant will be simple. The wiring takes a $8 adaptor and some basic wire splicing. The audio wiring in the car has been studied to death, and well documented. You'll be surprised how much better your Bose speakers sound too!
 

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That's a great idea. I never thought of replacing it with an upgrade single DIN unit. I'm definitely going to keep an eye out, especially with Black Friday coming up!
 

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Full disclosure:
We are not trying to SAVE you money. We want you to conserve your money for when you really need it for buying parts, and tools, and other worthy things.
I'm guessing we'll be hearing about a new head unit sometime Friday......
 

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Hahaha, I understand that. Luckily, my parents help with tune-ups and stuff like that, although it's mostly on my shoulders. And yes, you will probably hear about a new head unit on friday or so haha!
 

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The head unit spec you are looking for is prefer a pre-amp output of 4V or more for best match with the Bose system in the car now, the closer/over 4V the more satisfied you will be.

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