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In a word, Yes, What makes you think you need to change them? Any good alignment shop should be able to handle it!!!
 

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All four wheels can be aligned but as drags points out any final calibrations should be carried out by a specialist using laser alignment equipment.

If you change steering components e.g. ball joints or a steering relay, mark beforehand or count how many turns to remove the old ball joint. Fit the new component counting the turns or up to the mark that was previously made.
This will give a safe approximation of the set up to enable you to drive carefully to the alignment specialist.
 

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They are right. All four corners can be adjusted and should be adjusted at a tyre shop tp avoid weird wear. I personally prefer my wheels a little more opened (like in touring cars even if not so much) than standar settings but that depends on my driving style.

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In a word, Yes, What makes you think you need to change them? Any good alignment shop should be able to handle it!!!
Thanks Everyone!

IF what you guys are saying is that the camber + caster can be adjusted I am in HUGE relief!!! A couple of weeks ago I scraped a curb front right rim at low speed, no serious damage has occured, matter fact the steering wheel is pretty much dead center as it always was. What it tells me is that the (Toe Angle) should be OK, and if isnt it can be adjusted. Only thing is that I am worried about is that I notice that the the steering wheel feels a bit stiffer when I turn left vs. right. Plus a slight pull to the right. makes me think the problem is either in the camber or caster. Our cars are engineered to be very well balanced so things like this this really bothers me. Most Japanese cars such as my G35, GS400, and AcuraLegend has no factory camber or caster adjustments to the best of my knowledge and iquirey. Remember I am not an alignment technician. Are you guys sure the alignment shop can adjust the 129s' camber and caster without shims? :crybaby2: :bowdown:

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Are you guys sure the alignment shop can adjust the 129s' camber and caster without shims? :crybaby2: :bowdown:

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Very sure: every tyre shop that can adjust a car geometry have stored in their computers the factory set up and can fine adjust every adjstable parameter even to your taste (as I usuall do since the tyre shop is a customer of mine too).

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Very sure: every tyre shop that can adjust a car geometry have stored in their computers the factory set up and can fine adjust every adjstable parameter even to your taste (as I usuall do since the tyre shop is a customer of mine too).

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Thanks you so much Msbarsi and everyone else,

You have no idea how much better I feel knowing. Wheeeew.... I thought I was doomed...... hehehe!!!!!!

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From what you have said here, It sounds like you have KNOCKED the R.F. wheel BACK a couple of degrees(negitive caster) this is what will cause a PULL to the right. Camber will cause tire wear on the edge of the tire, Toe will wear all the way across the tread. Hope this helps.
 

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The rears are camber-adjustable? Really...prolly should have known that, but learn something new every day. The stock negative-camber setup cups my rears tires on the inside edges...and they wear faster because of it. I would much rather just have both of them flat on the ground.

I get that negative camber is supposed to improve handling, but I'd rather just flatten it out and get better tire life. I live in Florida anyway, and everything is a giant 8-lane divided highway with no real curves. So the only thing you can do for fun is go fast in a straight line. So I don't need the extra cornering help, but extra tire life would sure be helpful!
 

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From what you have said here, It sounds like you have KNOCKED the R.F. wheel BACK a couple of degrees(negitive caster) this is what will cause a PULL to the right. Camber will cause tire wear on the edge of the tire, Toe will wear all the way across the tread. Hope this helps.
Thanks Drags for the input,

The average driver probably would not notice this or would care less by this, but I push my SL's handling capabilities to the limit and I feel that this slight change in suspension geometry compromises "some" balance in handling around high-speed cornering. Like I say its no major damage by any means but the steering just doesnt feel the same when I "GUN IT" around turns. Not worried about the scratched rim, it can be refinished or replaced if nessecary.

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Thanks Drags for the input,

I am keeping my fingers crossed that this (negative caster) can be adjusted.
The average driver probably would not notice this or would care less by this, but I push my SL's handling capabilities to the limit and I feel that this slight change in suspension geometry compromises "some" balance in handling around high-speed cornering. Like I say its no major damage by any means but the steering just doesnt feel the same when I "GUN IT" around turns. Not worried about the scratched rim, it can be refinished or replaced if nessecary.
I will keep yall posted on the results of the alignment. :)

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HI KYU500SL since your driving style seems similar to mine as far as I can understand I think you should follow my example having the geometry going touring cars fashion but not by too much since you don't have slick tyres (I wish I could have them for road driving) on your car and you will see a nice improvement. If you really want the ultimate grip get yourself a set of Pirelli PZero Rossos: ok they wear faster than others but you will be sincerely amazed by what your R129 can do after you get them. I had them on mine and I could do on my car things that I can only dream of in my present 2003 CL 500 that has ABC active air suspensions.

Trust me once you try the PZero Rossos you become addicted.

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HI KYU500SL since your driving style seems similar to mine as far as I can understand I think you should follow my example having the geometry going touring cars fashion but not by too much since you don't have slick tyres (I wish I could have them for road driving) on your car and you will see a nice improvement. If you really want the ultimate grip get yourself a set of Pirelli PZero Rossos: ok they wear faster than others but you will be sincerely amazed by what your R129 can do after you get them. I had them on mine and I could do on my car things that I can only dream of in my present 2003 CL 500 that has ABC active air suspensions.

Trust me once you try the PZero Rossos you become addicted.

Cheers.
Sounds like a very good set of tires!!!!
 
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