[Turbo6]

New link up for 3 days, can anyone host this alot simpler pls????

https://www6.sendthisfile.com/d.jsp?t=nJ3YobrLsH1hbjfRMdlzNPUC

Also, you can view the video here

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/Turbo6/?action=view&current=video-0004.flv

But you will miss the last 1 minute of the evening, which is basically an in-car victory burnout.

 

[FrankW]

stock vs stock right? pretty can know the result without seeing.

can't hear the sound, but probably just me...or is it? lol

 

[Turbo6]

yeah Frank, stock vs stock.

U should be able to hear sound. Download the file if you cant, are you playing with Quicktime? Play with QT. So what did you think? The C55 seems to have a very slight edge over the C32, not a lot, I guess with a chip, the C32 will be right there, bearing in mind the dude with the C55 is a good driver and the C32 driver is a bot slow off the line on all the runs.

 

[FrankW]

stock vs stock the C32 off the line is just as quick as the C55 it's not until higher speed the advantage is shown from the V8. based on the power advantage I'm guessing it'll at least have a car length on the C32 at 120mph.

with just a chip I think the C32 can hang with the C55 at high speed, but it's certainly not going to pull away.

with just the pulley kit the C32 will be even with the C55 until 80 and the C32 will slowly inch away and put a fender on the C55 at 120mph. I did this to my friend's C55 when I only had the pulley kit.

with both chip and pulley it's all C32. The only way C55 can beat a chipped and pullied C32 is doing something dramatic like the supercharger.

 

[Turbo6]

....with both chip and pulley it's all C32. The only way C55 can beat a chipped and pullied C32 is doing something dramatic like the supercharger.

Stupid idiot went and traded his C32 for a C55. Too much money, too little sense. Both nice cars but he could been the underdogg, fit pulley and chip woth exhaust and kill a 55. Aah well, maybe I'm just being a V6 fan cos I got a C320

 

[FrankW]

I don't understand the guys that traded their C32 for the C55 either. maybe they're not modders. The seats in the C55 is much better that's for sure.

 

[PC Valkyrie]

I wouldn't trade in a C32 for a C55 either, but there are things about the C55 that are different (some of which may be considered "superior").

1) "Direct Control" upgrades (wider front track, revised stiffer suspension, quicker steering ratio) with a revised ESP program resulting in a significant improvement in handling, and I mean quite a bit better based on laptimes.
2) A "manual" (M) transmission mode (in addition to S and C), with shifting buttons on back of steering wheel which gives the driver more control about gear selection with no automatic upshifting even when at redling.
3) facelifted interior with better seats, instrument cluster, steering wheel
4) cosmetic exterior upgrades (quad exhaust, lip spoiler, 18" rims, sleeker/longer front end)
5) Naturally aspirsted big displacement V8 which sounds different from a supercharged V6

And yes, it is slightly faster than a stock C32 in a straight line.....

The only thing I think which is not as good as the C32 in stock form: the C55 has a much bumpier ride (because of the stiffer suspension).

 

[FrankW]

agreed. stock for stock the C55 is a better car for sure with the upgrades AMG has done to it.

one thing tho, out of the couple spirited driving I did with my friend's C55 I didn't feel that the M mode was all that better because of the lag you have between pressing the button and waiting for it to shift. This is with resetting his ecu to default. I find it easier to drive quicker in the S mode than in the M mode.

another thing I would disagree is the steering wheel. I find the C32 steering wheel has a better grip feel at 9-3 position. The thumb space on the C55 steering wheel feels a little weird and squarish which caught my finger couple time when I'm turning and it's also harder to get a good grip feel because of the bulky buttons on the back.

 

[PC Valkyrie]

one thing tho, out of the couple spirited driving I did with my friend's C55 I didn't feel that the M mode was all that better because of the lag you have between pressing the button and waiting for it to shift. This is with resetting his ecu to default. I find it easier to drive quicker in the S mode than in the M mode.

I agree that there is a noticable lag when manually upshifting during hard acceleration. I also agree that the fastest way to accelerate is to leave it in S mode and let the transmission do the upshifting on its own. It shifts pretty fast by itself and you don't have to worry about timing the shift.

The main advantage of the "M" mode is on a track (roadcourse or racetrack...not a drag strip). When entering and exiting from a turn, it REALLY helps to have full control of the gears. When left in automatic "S" mode, the car can unexpectedly downshift when accelerating out of a turn, upsetting the balance of the car and create potentially unwanted "extra" power. With full control of the gears and no automatic down- or upshifting in "M" mode, it prevents these unwanted gearshifts.

 

[FrankW]

very true. the downshift has happened when I'm up in the hills in my 32 coming out of a corner where I wanted it to simply stay in 3rd.

 

[dr21]

nice video, i am actually in the process of getting a c55.. its nice to see the pros and cons of each car (or lack there of), correct me if i am worng, but i hear that putting lets say chip/air/exhuast/and headers on a c55 really dosen't do much for the car... Also what do u guys think of the Kleeman charger? despite the price wich is crazy...

 

[FrankW]

chip/filter/exhaust and header at most gives you 30hp at crank and that's wishful thinking. On a low revving V8 such as the 55 V8 it doesn't gain power like BMW's high revving engines with simply filter, header chcange.

before jumping into the supercharger you'll first need to understand that a bolt on s/c properly toned will only give you 90-100hp gain max. however the chip/filter/exhaust/ and headers now will help making more power than just on a NA engine. You will be looking at spending about at least $15k for a really good and reliable setup. There are cheaper alternatives, but other risk is involved. no matter which brand you go with Kleemann, RENNtech, HPS, Carlsson, there are always darkside to the story.

 

[aaraisi]

thanks for the clip Turbo6


its so clear c55 lead up
c32 was not that far

 

[Turbo6]

No problemo mate. Pity of the language barrier, some in Afrikaans, our mother tongue. But ja...seems the C32 lots out bearing in mind the the driver of the C55 has much more experience at handling his cars.

Regarding the shifting, I find all the 5 speed autos somewhat lethargic and for that same reason I contacted MKB tuning in Germany as my next buy will be the C32 and not the C55, simply because of the price difference and the power gains on the C32. Besides the usual mods, the C32 gets close to 450Hp with the full suit of mods like the pulley, chip, VMAX limiter removed, headers, full decat freeflow exhuast system, e55 throttle and filters: something the c55 could never achieve without a blower.

These guys also supply and fit a transmission ecu upgrade with steering wheel buttons for the older models. The upgrade improves reaction time from the time you tape the stick left and right and you also have the same steering wheel buttons as with the 55. I think they do a steering wheel swop.

I intend going fullout with a C32 and have even considered their cam upgrade with double valve springs, the reckon they nudge on 330kW!!!!!!! Thats just crazy power in a C-Class!!!! Its 30kW shy off the E55!!!!

 

[keninirvine]

My understanding, and experience, is that the M mode in the C55 only affects up-shifting, and doesn't control down-shifting. Whatever gear you select just tells the tranny what is the highest gear it can shift up to. This is also how it is described in manual. For that reason, I find it virtually useless to use the M mode. Sometimes, when accelerating, I would like to force it to shift into a higher gear before it revs so high, but it will only shift up when it decides to, but won't exceed the gear you've selected.

 

[Turbo6]

Contact MKB Tuning dude. They sort the software and some hardware upgrade so that its a true "manual" auto - F1 style. It will shift and hold a gear and you can aslo gear up and use the low down grunt if you dont want to the rev the crap out of the car.

The ONLY problem with this system is (and its a serious one indeed) is that if you make a mistake, you will pay dearly for it. Imagine dragging the car through the 1st 4 gears and shifting wrong into 3rd!!!!

That'll destroy the tranne, nevermind the flipout you'll have when the car comes around. I think the stock Merc system is very safe in that you can touch the limiter through the gears but you wont be able to force a downshift if the revs are too high.

 

[JG26_Irish]

C32 vs C55

The C55 is a nice car. Very refined and in my opinion prettier than the newer C63. But for ~$535 in mods, I picked up a C3P sc pulley and intake. These were both lightly used and in near new condition. New they may have cost closer to $850 with shipping and all. Those two mods which took all of about an hour to install boosted the crank hp to about 392 and RWHP to 334. An ECU tune is expected to net another 20-30 hp. Even without the tune, the C32 is a very quick little beastie and I would not heasitate to run with a stock C55.

Pre mods my C32 ran bone stock a 13.54 sec ET @ 103 mph and 0-60 of 4.8-5.1 depending on launch traction.
No Mod bone stock C55 ran 13.31 sec ET @ 105 mph and 0-60 of ?
Those are real cars with normal non-hero drivers.

In Motor Trend test when both cars were brand new;
C55 amg did 0-60 in 4.9sec and 1/4 mile in [email protected]
C32 amg did 0-60 in 4.7sec and 1/4 mile in [email protected]


The mods in my C32 dropped the 0-60 times to 4.55 sec. I've not done the 1/4 with it again yet but considering that it hit 60mph 3/10's quicker, I'm not going to be surprised at all if it busts the qtr about 5/10's quicker which would put it in the 13.000 bracket @ ~110mph. It don't sound like much but its enough to walk on a C55 unless he has his NOS wired tight.

There is so little that can be done to the 55 to affordably boost the power that it gets eclipsed in short order. I looked at a sweet local, low milage C55 before I got the C32 and choose the C32 because it was lighter and I liked the tuning potential of the SC'ed six. I have not been disappointed. It is way cool to smoke a "Faster" car with a V8 in it and then show em the V6 badge. One guy asked me what the "Kompressor" meant? I told him that it was German for "Blows doors off".

Irish

 

[C32AMGRenntech]

The C55 is a nice car. Very refined and in my opinion prettier than the newer C63. But for ~$535 in mods, I picked up a C3P sc pulley and intake. These were both lightly used and in near new condition. New they may have cost closer to $850 with shipping and all. Those two mods which took all of about an hour to install boosted the crank hp to about 392 and RWHP to 334. An ECU tune is expected to net another 20-30 hp. Even without the tune, the C32 is a very quick little beastie and I would not heasitate to run with a stock C55.

Pre mods my C32 ran bone stock a 13.54 sec ET @ 103 mph and 0-60 of 4.8-5.1 depending on launch traction.
No Mod bone stock C55 ran 13.31 sec ET @ 105 mph and 0-60 of ?
Those are real cars with normal non-hero drivers.

In Motor Trend test when both cars were brand new;
C55 amg did 0-60 in 4.9sec and 1/4 mile in [email protected]
C32 amg did 0-60 in 4.7sec and 1/4 mile in [email protected]


The mods in my C32 dropped the 0-60 times to 4.55 sec. I've not done the 1/4 with it again yet but considering that it hit 60mph 3/10's quicker, I'm not going to be surprised at all if it busts the qtr about 5/10's quicker which would put it in the 13.000 bracket @ ~110mph. It don't sound like much but its enough to walk on a C55 unless he has his NOS wired tight.

There is so little that can be done to the 55 to affordably boost the power that it gets eclipsed in short order. I looked at a sweet local, low milage C55 before I got the C32 and choose the C32 because it was lighter and I liked the tuning potential of the SC'ed six. I have not been disappointed. It is way cool to smoke a "Faster" car with a V8 in it and then show em the V6 badge. One guy asked me what the "Kompressor" meant? I told him that it was German for "Blows doors off".

Irish

I agree with you on what you mentioned. :thumbsup:
I will take the C32 over the C55 any day with the modding of the supercharged v6 available to us.

 

[Ghabe321]

Hey dude not to sound weird but you got anything better I can contact you on I have so many questions about your c320 I have one myself and I’m looking for some power gains