ive actually been thinking about doing this for a long time now, however i never thought about the amg brakes.

i have 18" wheels now and the brakes look so tiny in there lol. should any brakes from any mercedes work? or is there a year that i have to worry about not exceeding?

i realize there is stuf like esp/asr and other things that my car does not have, but if my car doesnt have them, the brakes should still work right, if its taken from a newer car with those features?

would i need to change the brake lines and resevior too?

some companies make big brake kits, but they are way too expensive in my opinion.

 

What I have read is that the C32 brakes bolt up. As you have a 95 W202 you will also need to change the hubs to the later versions like I had to. I got the calipers at a really good price so it made sense for me to go the C36 route. Even owning a C36 to compare parts side by side and spending hours in research....my install was filled with a few bumps and gotchas. In the end it was all sorted but it was hardly a one hour swap.

 

how much did that cost

 

The cost broke down to the following:

New OEM Rotors = $160/set
Used Hubs = $120/set
New Mintex Pads = $40
Used 96-97 C36 Calipers = $75/pair

Total ~ $400

 

Does anyone know if you can do this to a 94 C220?

 

From my research it should work the same as the 220 and 280 had the same brakes in the early years.

 

Thanks this looks like a fantastic upgrade. Did you try the stainless steel lines first? I'm wondering how much difference just the stainless lines would make in comparison to doing something like this.

 

I'm sure the stainless steel lines would only improve things but there is no way to even come close to the improvement with going from a floating single piston caliper to a fixed four pot caliper.

 

ok so let me get this straight.

i have a 95 c280....

for this set up i need:

-96-97 c36 calipers, rotors and hubs?

 

Yes that is correct.

 

Is this front and Back? What do u recommend for the Back?

 

mine origionally had the crap solid discs, changed them to black diamond drilled and grooved discs all round, but the big difference was putting vented on the front, i had to get the c280 calipers and carriers to fit it, just the discs are a bit larger by 3mm if i remember correctly

 

So i guess my question is that im wondering that if the back c280 calipers where swapped to the c36 ones. Or are they the same?

 

The C36 rear calipers are different than the c280(the calipers are from the e420). The rear upgrade involves trimming the splash shield for clearance. I am running the stock c280 rear and front c36 setup and the braking is impressive.

 

as far as i know, the back calipers are the same, if not some1 here will tell us otherwise

 

you can always go to parts websites and search for the part for each car and see if the part numbers match up or if they are different.

 

What about doing this to a 98' C280 Sport. Do I still use the rotors form the C36 or do I use the C43's?

 

If you are using c43 calipers then c43 rotors and if you are using c36 calipers then c36 rotors.

 

If you are using C43 rotors, prepare to pay silly money for new products

 

Silly, funny or silly, I crapped my pants on sticker shock

And what size rims do the C36 use, 16"?

 

I also been thinking about installing the C36's brake system on mine.

Alternatively, I actually decided to replaced my 220's brakes with W210 E320's on both the front and the rear.
The 320's front caliper is the same single piston sliding type as the 220's, however, it comes with larger pistons, larger pads, larger and thicker rotors (300mm. front, 290mm. rear) and the total weight would less than the 36's.

IMHO, It'd not has as aggressive braking feel as the 4 fixed calipers, but it provided much better brake balancing. The car is stopped faster and smoother. And the installation was just like plug and play.

 

I finally managed to track down the parts to this. The new brakes will be in by the end of next week.
I just realized that when this is done the spare will no longer work on the front. What did you use?
And, does anyone know what width will fit in the trunk without creating a problem with the trunk liner?

 

well as long as you get a tire with the same overall diameter it will be fine.

maybe the clk430's have a 17" spare or something...

 

Does anyone know if this wheel would work as a spare for the W202?

Bolt Pattern: 5x112 Rim Width: 8.5
Rim Brand: Factory, OEM Rim Diameter: 17
Manufacturer Part Number: 1294011302 Offset: 34
Rim Structure: One Piece Number of Bolts: 5

 

sounds like it probably would but it all depends on what size tire is on it. also i would measure the depth of your well in the trunk to see if it will handle an 8.5" rim. the wheel itself will be more like 9.5" wide though from outer rim to outer rim.

 

Thanks. I was a bit worried about the offset being ... well off.

 

my fronts are 8.5" wide and have an offset of about 30 i think so youll defenitely be fine with that. what car does that wheel come from? is it an actual spare or just a regular wheel?

 

I tried using a 17X8.5 (clk 170 AMg rim) as a spare and the trunk floor was no longer flat.

 

It's a black spare wheel from an S class I found on ebay that I was hoping would work. The offset is part of the deal that I don't understand. I'm not clear on what 30 vs 34 does to affect the fitment.

 

basically, with the same wheel width... a lower offset will cause the outside edge of the wheel to stick out more, making the wheels flush or even sticking out of the fender if the offset is too low. if the offset is too high it will be sunk into the fender. i think 34 will be perfect for this application. are you going to buy the wheel? if not i might lol. are there multiple ones?

i just put on brakes from an sl500 so now my stock spare tire will not work.

 

The floor issue is definitely a concern. What size tire was on the 8.5 inch rim?

 

So how are the brakes from the SL500 working?
I've had to postpone my upgrade until next week as I'm going to have the flex discs driveshaft bearing and steering damper done at the same time and those parts aren't here yet.
I've got the new brakes here and they look huge sitting on my garage floor.

 

I've been looking and it seems the C36 and C43 came with an extra front monoblok as a spare. They are 7.5 inches wide. If you still want the S class spare -I'm not going to buy it, it's posted here:
17 MERCEDES S SPARE DONUT FACTORY WHEEL 65365 - eBay (item 180613047571 end time Feb-14-11 13:23:26 PST) on ebay.

 

the sl500 brake upgrade worked fairly well. it wasnt as straight forward as the c36 upgrade will be. since my car was a 95 i had to upgrade to the 96 and later hubs... but it still didnt give me quite enough to make the sl500 brakes work correctly. i needed to add a 1mm spacer in between the hub and the rotor so that i could mount the calipers to the steering knuckle. other than that it works fine. they brakes feel like there is more bite... but i havent really gotten on them hard yet since im still following the directions for the break in period. the calipers look like they are the same as the c36 but the rotors for the c36 are 317mm and the sl500 is only 300mm, so they are a little smaller. i upgraded all 4 wheels. the backs bolted up perfectly. the 300mm rotors are bigger than stock... but they still look really tiny in my 18" wheels lol. i probably need something around 350mm or so to make my wheels look full. i will take some pictures once i finish the break in period and clean the brake dust off.