[Bruce R.]

I noticed something interesting at the NASCAR race at Martinsville Speedway this weekend. The cut away car that FOX TV uses for demonstrations, the brakes were Brembo rather then the traditional Willwood system. It looks like European technology is working its way into an all American sport. []
Something else I noticed was that the correctly installed disc (you could see the sweep of the internal vanes) had the slots cut the reverse of what some folks might consider correct. That is the leading edge of the slot was at the outer edge of the disc, and the trailing edge was toward the center of the disc. Very impressive looking package, and bigger then what appeared to be on an F 1 car, guess you would have to expect that…. [][]

 

[Kirill]

Very impressive looking package, and bigger then what appeared to be on an F 1 car, guess you would have to expect that…. [][]

Size of F1 brakes limited by regulations. But i believe they have enough brake force to lock-up wheels, so it's up to tires to stop the car.

 

[Bruce R.]

Size of F1 brakes limited by regulations. But i believe they have enough brake force to lock-up wheels, so it's up to tires to stop the car.

But there's the rub once the brakes are locked up they can't absorb and dissapate anymore energy, they become useless, not to mention putting flat spots on the tires (ask Kimi about what that can do.).
Big brakes are the other half of going fast... []

 

[430]

Bruce R. - 4/3/2006 11:29 AM

I noticed something interesting at the NASCAR race at Martinsville Speedway this weekend. The cut away car that FOX TV uses for demonstrations, the brakes were Brembo rather then the traditional Willwood system. It looks like European technology is working its way into an all American sport. []
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Please don't call driving in a circle a sport []

 

[Bruce R.]

Please don't call driving in a circle a sport

It's the surviving the driving in a circle that's the sport... [)]
It's funny though, even Nigel Mansell(sp?) had a hard time doing that when he drove the Indy cars... []

 

[larryk]

430 - 4/3/2006 12:28 PM

Please don't call driving in a circle a sport []

Well if driving (racing) in a circle (oval) ain't a sport, there goes thoroughbred flat racing, track (running), speed skating, motorcycle racing, Greyhounds, and a host of others. Damn, I hate when that happens []

 

[Kirill]

larryk - 4/3/2006 2:45 PM

Well if driving (racing) in a circle (oval) ain't a sport, there goes thoroughbred flat racing, track (running), speed skating, motorcycle racing, Greyhounds, and a host of others. Damn, I hate when that happens []

When greyhounds start driving Nascar - that may be entertaining.

 

[SteveL]

RE: Bruce, I swapped my brakes last weekend...

It was a snap even for the mechanically challenged. I wish someone made a 2 piece rotor for the rear but it would be difficult with the e-brake assembly. My 355 mm 2 piece front rotors are lighter than the 305 mm rears with a solid hub.

 

[Bruce R.]

Less unsuspended weight should help handling............

I think as soon as I get a few sheckles togeather I'll have to go with bigger brakes. I know better, but I'm always afraid of the pedal going to the floor at the end of a long straight.
That as you say is an easy job, but it requires great care and attention. Losing brakes can really spoil a nice day...[] Good to hear you had no problems.[]

 

[430]

larryk - 4/3/2006 2:45 PM

430 - 4/3/2006 12:28 PM

Please don't call driving in a circle a sport []

Well if driving (racing) in a circle (oval) ain't a sport, there goes thoroughbred flat racing, track (running), speed skating, motorcycle racing, Greyhounds, and a host of others. Damn, I hate when that happens []

More an apple to oranges comparison than an apple to apple comparison.

 

[larryk]

430 - 4/3/2006 6:23 PM

larryk - 4/3/2006 2:45 PM

430 - 4/3/2006 12:28 PM

Please don't call driving in a circle a sport []

Well if driving (racing) in a circle (oval) ain't a sport, there goes thoroughbred flat racing, track (running), speed skating, motorcycle racing, Greyhounds, and a host of others. Damn, I hate when that happens []

More an apple to oranges comparison than an apple to apple comparison.

I'm neither a NASCAR or a F1 fan, so I'm afraid I'm missing your point. You obviously have a personal definition of "sport" that I am unaware of. Is it turns in one direction only that disqualify NASCAR? What is required for "Auto Sport" Drag Racing no sport either? Autocross? X-Country? Demolition Derby? Indy 500? What's the definition of "sport" in your personal dictionary [?]

 

[berk]

golf, nascar, walking, fishing = not sports
motocross, running, boxing, tennis = sports

GET IT LARRY?

NASCAR = BORING

 

[Bruce R.]

More to the point...............

Whether or not you call NASCAR a sport or not doesn't really matter. [] The point is that you have cars that weigh about 3,400 # that tend to go fast, very quickly. They do that a lot at Martinsville, speeds vary from about 50 mph up to about 120 mph twice every lap, and the energy dissipated by the brakes is enormous. [:0] When Earnhardt had his front corner wiped off you could see the three cooling ducts and carbon fiber scoop leading to the brake. It's no wonder that someone had a tire bead actually melt, and then had that tire blow out. [B)]

 

[430]

RE: More to the point...............

they should also remove the S from nascar. No longer do the cars have really anything in common with their stock counterparts.

Was out the other evening and walked by a custom sign and printing shop. The building is all glass so you can see samples of their work. They took the nascar logo and used BORING instead. Pretty funny.

 

[Kirill]

Why don't any team in Nascar run the SLR ?

 

[Bazzle]

Kirill - 4/5/2006 10:35 PM

Why don't any team in Nascar run the SLR ?

"Cause" its a Pommy car [8D]

Bazzle

 

[430]

Bazzle - 4/4/2006 9:08 AM

Kirill - 4/5/2006 10:35 PM

Why don't any team in Nascar run the SLR ?

"Cause" its a Pommy car [8D]

Bazzle

Pommy???

 

[nickwilcock]

The insulting colonial fellow means that the SLR is built in Her Brittanic Majesty's Merrie Olde England!

Or is it actually a kraut car?

[]

Whatever - it's far too good for roundy-roundy-NAsCAR racing!

 

[Bruce R.]

NASCAR rules require a push rod engine, no overhead cams.
So as long as this thread has gone this far Off Topic, what's this I heard that Toyota is going to run NASCAR next year?

 

[SteveL]

RE: I heard Redbull was going to put a team together as well...

I just can't bring myself to watch Nascar, even in hi-def.