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Hello; Are you SIP( sheltered in place) ? I am...so finally getting this job done. The front shocks ( I did the rears last summer) ....and when I got the first shock out it had a metal support plate inside the shock cover and nothing in-between the body and the shock but the cover of the shock to the under body of the car. On top it had a rubber bushing then a plate and a couple nuts on top of the plate.

I want to put the rubber bushings like the picture.The cardboard being the car body. See any reason not to configure the metal plates and bushings like this? It did not really make sense the way they had it when I took it out.....
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most shocks have two rubber bushings one possibly fell apart.
 

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Your easy to understand picture is correct. Prior install was wrong or as DHS notes it may have fallen apart. The large cup washers surround the bushings like three dimensional (parentheses). Some bushings have an inside lip that gets inserted into the hole in the car body.
 

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Your easy to understand picture is correct. Prior install was wrong or as DHS notes it may have fallen apart. The large cup washers surround the bushings like three dimensional (parentheses). Some bushings have an inside lip that gets inserted into the hole in the car body.
Wouldnt you know it. I just got the second shock in and I decided to put it n the way it came. Oh well its all still apart. Not a big deal. I will have to take the other side apart. No big deal, it is just snug..not tight.

The reason why I did it the the same way as I took it out was because it holds the shock cover right up against the body. Still must affect the ride. I would think, it would be a little smoother after doing it the way, in the picture?
 

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Shocks done....Not a big change, but the car only has 86 k.

Thank you all for the feedback.
Now onto the fuel injection troubleshooting, Still have the problem wit the car just dying and not wanting to start for about 90 seconds....already replaced the fuel injectors and fuel relay.......The problem is Still happening. I will research the forum for testing the fuel pressure regulator. I replaced the injectors because those could a problem from what I read...
 

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I have by lower rubber bushing inside the cover. I also put the top washer backwards from your picture. The cover goes against the chassis. Both my cars are like this. I believe when I did this I red the directions that came with the shocks.
 

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I have by lower rubber bushing inside the cover. I also put the top washer backwards from your picture. The cover goes against the chassis. Both my cars are like this. I believe when I did this I red the directions that came with the shocks.
The directions had multiple ways to place the bushings. Thats why I thought I would ask the forum. They are in now and seemed to work fine.
 

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The directions had multiple ways to place the bushings. Thats why I thought I would ask the forum. They are in now and seemed to work fine.
Not surprised. I seem to remember the same.
 

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I was hoping to source Bilstein HD all the way around (*edit- for my '86 560SL) . Any updates on source? In searching the part#s I've seen in this thread, I keep coming up empty. Do these still exist in 2020?
 

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I was hoping to source Bilstein HD all the way around (*edit- for my '86 560SL) . Any updates on source? In searching the part#s I've seen in this thread, I keep coming up empty. Do these still exist in 2020?
I have also been on the search! These are the part numbers that I am fairly sure are right, I just got some HDs for the rear, but have yet to make sure that the front shocks I am looking at are HDs as well. The HD Fronts should be 24-005241 or B36-0524 and the HD rears should be 24-005111 or B46-0511-H0. I know Mercedessource has some in stock for the rear and there's fronts on eBay as well. However, I am not sure if either those fronts are real HDs or I have the right part number.
 

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Hi @StuartTrappe. Thanks for your reply. I spoke with someone at Bilstein today, and those numbers corresponded to the only ones they could pull up for the 560SL. He indicated they were the Bilstein B4 Series, which is made to replace OEM. I had read in this thread that OE was HD in the front, Comfort/Touring in the rear. I was unable to confirm or deny with certainty if there is still bifurcation between "Comfort" and "HD". I guess parts availability for a classic can be quite dynamic over the 13 years this thread has been active.

What I've learned so far

(For Sure) Part Numbers
(Front) - B4 OE Replacement - Shock Absorber
Billsten P#(s): 24-005241 / B36-0524
MBZ OEM P#: 107 320 02 30

(Rear) - B4 OE Replacement - Shock Absorber
Billstein P#:24-005111 / B46-0511-H0
MBZ OEM P#:107 326 16 00

Bilstein Series Range
Their B4 Series is OEM replacement
Their B6 Series is "sport" - 20% stiffer than B4
Their B8 Series is "shortened for lowered vehicles" - 20% stiffer, but shortened
Their B12 Series is coilover
Their B14 Series is (height) adjustable coilover
Their B16 Series is (height & dampening) adjustable coilover

I hope someone can definitively determine if there are or are not still 2 different options, with 2 different part numbers corresponding to 2 different products, and preferably 2 corresponding links to purchase. 🤞
 

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Hi @StuartTrappe. Thanks for your reply. I spoke with someone at Bilstein today, and those numbers corresponded to the only ones they could pull up for the 560SL. He indicated they were the Bilstein B4 Series, which is made to replace OEM. I had read in this thread that OE was HD in the front, Comfort/Touring in the rear. I was unable to confirm or deny with certainty if there is still bifurcation between "Comfort" and "HD". I guess parts availability for a classic can be quite dynamic over the 13 years this thread has been active.

What I've learned so far

(For Sure) Part Numbers
(Front) - B4 OE Replacement - Shock Absorber
Billsten P#(s): 24-005241 / B36-0524
MBZ OEM P#: 107 320 02 30

(Rear) - B4 OE Replacement - Shock Absorber
Billstein P#:24-005111 / B46-0511-H0
MBZ OEM P#:107 326 16 00

Bilstein Series Range
Their B4 Series is OEM replacement
Their B6 Series is "sport" - 20% stiffer than B4
Their B8 Series is "shortened for lowered vehicles" - 20% stiffer, but shortened
Their B12 Series is coilover
Their B14 Series is (height) adjustable coilover
Their B16 Series is (height & dampening) adjustable coilover

I hope someone can definitively determine if there are or are not still 2 different options, with 2 different part numbers corresponding to 2 different products, and preferably 2 corresponding links to purchase. 🤞
I spoke with them as well today actually. Basically they confirmed that I had the right number for the rear (24-005111), but the front could either be 24-005241 or 24-007078. They were unable to tell me with absolute certainty which was which. So thus the journey continues, what are you thinking of doing to research this?
 

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I spoke with them as well today actually. Basically they confirmed that I had the right number for the rear (24-005111), but the front could either be 24-005241 or 24-007078. They were unable to tell me with absolute certainty which was which. So thus the journey continues, what are you thinking of doing to research this?
Actually, this post seems to agree with my original hypothesis. Bilstein HD rears?
 

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I spoke with them as well today actually. Basically they confirmed that I had the right number for the rear (24-005111), but the front could either be 24-005241 or 24-007078. They were unable to tell me with absolute certainty which was which. So thus the journey continues, what are you thinking of doing to research this?
Interestingly, under their 'Specification>Buyers Guide' the 24-007078 doesn't list the 560SL as an application. :unsure:
 

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Interestingly, under their 'Specification>Buyers Guide' the 24-007078 doesn't list the 560SL as an application. :unsure:
That would make sense. I'm fairly certain the 560SL used HDs on the front from the factory. The 24-0007078 could be touring models and thus used on cars like the 380SL.
 

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That would make sense. I'm fairly certain the 560SL used HDs on the front from the factory. The 24-0007078 could be touring models and thus used on cars like the 380SL.
My thoughts exactly. Just for giggles, I went to Bilstein.de to look at options for the 500SL, and only listed the B4 series, but didn't get to a part number yet. My Deutsche is Scheisse
 

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Looks like Kent at mercedessource has the answers we seek. He sells the Rear 'Comfort' for $149/pr and rear 'Heavy Duty' at $184.50/pr. Wonder if I can get the Bilstein part numbers from them.
 

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Looks like Kent at mercedessource has the answers we seek. He sells the Rear 'Comfort' for $149/pr and rear 'Heavy Duty' at $184.50/pr. Wonder if I can get the Bilstein part numbers from them.
The rears are definitely 24-005111. I confirmed this with both Bilstein and an independent reseller.
 

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Then what's the rear 'Comfort' Bilstein part # I wonder, as mercedessourse definitely advertised both at different prices
 

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Then what's the rear 'Comfort' Bilstein part # I wonder, as mercedessourse definitely advertised both at different prices
I called a Mercedes OEM parts place to suss out the different shocks used on a 380SL vs a 560SL. A 560SL uses Mercedes part code A1073200230 which translates to 24-005241 from Bilstein. The 380SL uses Mercedes part code A1073200030 which is the Bilstein 24-007078. From that information, assuming those are the only two shock absorbers, we should get the Bilstein 24-005241 shocks as those are the HDs.
 
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