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Which do you prefer or do you combine to get the best feel?
 

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Depends on the feel you want. HDs on the W123 series are an improvement because the stock suspension is very soft. HDs on the W124 series seriously firm up the ride because 124s have a firmer stock suspension and some folks have changed back to the standard "Comforts" because of this. I would not mix them - you will get unbalanced handling.
 

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HD and Sport are the same valving. The Sport has a shorter shaft and an internal bump stop for lowered applications. I have HDs on the front of both my wagons. Good stuff.
This.


They're essentially the exact same shock/strut, but with different rod lengths. If you're lowered you'll want to go for the sports.
 

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Thanks for the replies. Now, I can install sports on stock springs for the time being, until I pick up some lowering springs, correct? My shocks front and rear are absolute sh!t right now.
 

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HD and Sport are the same valving.
Are you sure about this? I was very much under the impression that the sports were 3 valves and HD were 2. Comfort was one.
 

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Thanks for the replies. Now, I can install sports on stock springs for the time being, until I pick up some lowering springs, correct? My shocks front and rear are absolute sh!t right now.
I would not. If you have the compressor I would go ahead and lop off some coild if you reaaaalllly want to do the shocks now. You could always look in the junkyards for some shock to hold you over.
 

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If you're lowering ...

Which do you prefer or do you combine to get the best feel?
If you are lowering, use the Sports (or B8s). But fit the shorter springs at the same time.

Also, be sure to re-adjust camber after the shorter springs are installed.

Good luck.

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Also, be sure to re-adjust camber after the shorter springs are installed.

Good luck.

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Oh, the rears butterfly really bad when lowered 1 1/2"?
 

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Are you sure about this? I was very much under the impression that the sports were 3 valves and HD were 2. Comfort was one.
"Same-Same"...side by side in the below pic.
Only difference is internal stop in the HD which limits travel by about 1".
HD quite suitable for use with lowering springs ( 1.5" )
Porsche Turbos run the HD's and I use on my C124TT.
Problem with the Sport for street use is too short of a travel which can create excessive cycling on rough surfaces.

 

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Do sports come in black? Not that crazy about yellow shocks, especially on red lowering springs. I'm not about to rattle can some $500+ shocks if you know what I mean.
 

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Okay, put these on hold for a minute due to dumping money into my W123 and now I am ready to buy the front and rear Bilstein Sports. Does $500 for all sound about right, or do you have a source where to get them cheaper, anyone? I found the fronts for $150 each and rears for $110 each :dunno:
 

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Last set I got were $115/$80ish from Partsgeek, they were the cheapest I could find.
That was a few months ago, not sure about shipping to Eden tho :)




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Thanks Fish. Yeah, way cheaper there.
 

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Totally confused by Bilstein IDs

I am trying to purchase front and back HDs for my 1995 e320 Cabriolet. Can someone help me answer the following two questions:
1) Did I receive the fronts I want?
2) Can someone point me to the Parts Geek part of the rears that match?

Thanks in advance!
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I ordered the following from Parts Geek, hoping to receive some Front Strut HDs.

1995 Mercedes E320 Strut Assembly Suspension Price: $114.94 Qty: 2 Part #: W0133-1910540
What arrived were, according to the Bilstein website:
Twintube Strut Assembly

Part Number: 22-003614
MSRP: $260.00
Old Part Number: F4-V36-0361-H0

Setting: B6 Comfort (C)

Bilstein B4 Touring Class gas pressure shocks and struts are designed to be the economical choice for maintaining the original equipment ride performance while incorporating Bilstein's world-famous durability and precise construction. (black paint, steel body)

Descriptor: Heavy Duty Suspension
Drive Type: RWD
Position: Front
with the following list of vehicle applications:
1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 3.0L L6
1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 260E 2.6L L6
1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 300D 3.0L L6
1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 300DT 3.0L L6
1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 3.0L L6
1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 300TDT 3.0L L6
1988 MERCEDES-BENZ 260E 2.6L L6
1988 MERCEDES-BENZ 300CE 3.0L L6
1988 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 3.0L L6
1989 MERCEDES-BENZ 260E 2.6L L6
1989 MERCEDES-BENZ 300CE 3.0L L6
1989 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 3.0L L6
1990 MERCEDES-BENZ 300CE 3.0L L6
1990 MERCEDES-BENZ 300D 2.5 2.5L L5
1990 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 2.6 2.6L L6
1990 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 3.0L L6
1991 MERCEDES-BENZ 300CE 3.0L L6
1991 MERCEDES-BENZ 300D 2.5 2.5L L5
1991 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 2.6 2.6L L6
1991 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 3.0L L6
1992 MERCEDES-BENZ 300CE 3.0L L6
1992 MERCEDES-BENZ 300D 2.5 2.5L L5
1992 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 2.6 2.6L L6
1992 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 3.0L L6
1993 MERCEDES-BENZ 300CE 3.2L L6
1993 MERCEDES-BENZ 300D 2.5 2.5L L5
1993 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 2.8 2.8L L6
1993 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E 3.2L L6
Are these what I wanted?

Where can I find the matching Rears?
 

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Check for yourself:

Online Catalogue

22-003614 is a HD strut. It will fit A124, however Bilstein doesn't list it in the catalogue for the convertible.

The only B4 strut offered for the convertible is 22-040534, which in fact is a strut for W124 Sportline models.

As you can see - Euro catalogue has more shocks available. Apart from the B4 series with Standard, Sportline, HD and Tropen, there is also a B6 series called Sport (which has normal travel, only a bit stiffer) and finally B8 Sprint (which in US is called Sport) with shorter travel.
 
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