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The car has been sold.

Cheers


This car was not sold as the seller has stated. I finally went and looked at the car after a lengthy wait for him to get the proper car title. Upon inspection, I found the headliner had areas of detachment and was saggy in a few places with more to come. The clear plastic covering over the instrument panel had very noticeable micro-cracks with discoloration from age/sun. The rear view mirror had the typical light green ooze on the black trim from age/heat. The front struts need to be replaced, soft and mushy, the seller disagreed. At least 2 of the injectors were leaking significantly at pre-chambers, demonstrated by soapy water test. The seller refused to do this simple test for me during negotiation. Both plastic protective under-engine covers were missing which I noticed while laying on the ground. I did not attempt to have it put it up on a rack so I cannot speak to undercarriage and suspension parts.
The advertised as working ortho seats did not work and had the tell-tell squealing leaking sound when trying to inflate. The seller vehemently insisted the ortho seats were working perfectly, I beg to differ. He stated in his ad that he spent 1800 + on refurbishment of the car, in actuality it was 1400 + as I noticed this small exaggeration on the refurb invoice.
Also there are some kind of sap droppings/runs along the right rear quarter panel that seemed to be embedded on the paint or more likely clear coat? The car had been buff waxed but the sap? runs remained. All the rims have some minor curb rash.
So in my estimation, the car was not as stated for the asking price. This irascible seller remained firm on the price so I departed knowing I learned a lesson about difficult sellers, caveat emptor. I realize a firm price is his prerogative. In full disclosure, I must say that I only saw the sellers brother in person during the inspection and he was a nice person. I was only able to speak to the seller over the phone due to his work and he his phone opportunities were limited. I suspect this car might be easier to sell on Craigslist at that price?
 

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Date registered: Oct 2010
Vehicle: 1999 S500v, 1995 S500 Coupe
Location: central Florida
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Originally Posted by JeremyM3
The car was sold to another interested party about an hour after this person passed on it. It's very hard to manage someones expectations when they are unrealistic. It was a nice car for being 20 years old but was still a 20 year old car.

The man who posted called me drunk numerous times in the evenings asking the same questions over and over. (I don't deal with alcoholics). Sorry if I got tired of answering the same thing 20 times. Like I mentioned, buy a new Mercedes diesel, you wont be sorry.
Cheers guys!



Lol, drunk, hardly young man. I'm really not much of a drinker Jeremy, ask anyone who knows me, instead of attempting to impugn my character. I did call you a few times at night, and yes two of those calls were from restaurants. You were simply difficult to reach during the day. I tried to be pleasant but you certainly did not make it easy on me. Your attitude was always rather defensive, I should have known better but I wanted to think the best. I do believe honesty is a better policy. You avoided disclosing obvious problems with the car by deferring to the indy that had done your refurbishment on the vehicle. I spoke with him at some length but he informed he didn't check the car over thoroughly. He also said at that time it was the first time he had ever seen you, rather than being a regular customer as you implied. He was vague when I asked specific questions about the car, saying he couldn't remember or that he didn't check that. When I then asked you about those items several times you became defensive and irritated. Yes, I should have known better by your attitude, so I accept my ignorance in trusting you.
You were even difficult when I made the simple request for additional pictures, more than the 4 low res original photos posted on this site, acting as if I was putting you out by the request. The condition/problems I found during inspection were basic, excluding the soapy water pre-chamber leak test which you also refused to do for me.
Your ad stated the car needed nothing, inspection did not confirm your statements. Your hubris showed a lack of consideration for the buyer. I made the effort of flying out to your location but I was not going to pay your asking price once I inspected the car. That was my prerogative. Am I picky? Yes, but you should have been more forthcoming. Would I recommend buying a car from you now? No... and If you actually sold the car an hour after I was there, good for you. That was certainly good timing. I was shown the car by your brother and had to speak with you over the phone when you were available at work. Perhaps you even got off work early and could actually speak to the buyer face-to-face. lol
 

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The moderator ended up squashing the original thread of this disclosure which was located under classifieds/for sale . I understand his reasoning. Suffice it to say that forum members should be wary of this seller, Jeremym3. He did not reveal several problems/defects on the vehicle which he had for sale. I also discovered inaccuracies in the car's maintenance and history given by the seller. His final response was to accuse me of being an alcoholic, lol. This individual has never met me or even seen my face. I had to meet with his brother when I flew out to see the vehicle. Caveat emptor !
 

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Time to move on.........
 

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Time to move on.........
Already have, I purchased a very nice 1991 300d 2.5 turbo last Saturday. It has an excellent dealer serviced history, 137K on the clock and paid 2k less than the asking price for the car in Houston. I just wanted the forum to be aware of this seller's tactics, Jeremym3 , in case he tries again. Thanks
 

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Sad part we might find thousands of other Jeremis in our life. Just today I spend about 2 hr of my vacation time trying to buy replacement wheels/ tires that seem to be way cheaper in Vegas, than in California. The "professional" seller (posting under owner-selling on CL) went to the storage in the morning and personally checked the tires to be in very good condition. I went there and 2 tires are bold, one might have 10% life left and only one has decent thread. Rims have signs of salt on them, so those are not So Nevada wheels for sure.
Good part that the waste of my time took me to Las Vegas China Town that I missed on my previous visits.
People are people. Assume the worse and occasionally you get pleasantly surprised.
 

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Sellers? Some are honest and upfront, some are a bit shady, some are outright dishonest. CAVEAT EMPTOR, friends!!! ALWAYS!!!
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