[CA-280SL]

Purchased a 5 speed Getrag 717.400 from Euro and should be here by the middle if the month. Fonzi found it on the W126 forum, and the great guy
That he is, he text me the thread. I jumped on it and it will be shipped shortly.

Everthing seems to be in the kit however, what about the driveshaft.
Is the one in my automatic ln my 85 euro 280sl going to work,
I dont know if the automatic has a longer driveshaft than the manual.

If I need to get whichever end modified ( shortened) then i need the length required. I will order a new clutch disk and throughout bearing ifanyone knows the part nrs that i will need.

What else should i prepare for. A kit to rebuild the slave clyinder or get a new one.

 

[Fonzi]

I've got a spare drive shaft from a 5-speed (which went between the trans and diff that Nobby has from a 1983 280sl 5-speed). It is rusty, but might be of use to you.

What's your rear end diff ratio? What year is the car you are putting it in?

 

[CA-280SL]

I've got a spare drive shaft from a 5-speed (which went between the trans and diff that Nobby has from a 1983 280sl 5-speed). It is rusty, but might be of use to you.

What's your rear end diff ratio? What year is the car you are putting it in?

Mike, its going in my 85 280sl, "maggies lass". The 75'+++K miles
Cabernet Red I just painted a few months ago.

Is there a tag on rear diff i can read for u

 

[Fonzi]

From automobile catalog.com the 1985 has a 3.58 differential for both the auto and manual trans versions. I assume your differential will be good for the swap. I can probably box up that driveshaft if you want.

I am pretty sure I took pictures for Nobby in a thread where I think he may have been seeking a driveshaft, and I was trying to tell him he should have taken it while he was here. Then when he saw pics, he said he has NEVER seen a driveshaft that rusty.

 

[CA-280SL]

Mike, is this a one piece and does it use the center bearing support ...OR..?

Take a photo of it !

I just put new flex disc in a couple months back. So they still look good.

 

[Fonzi]

Trying to find the thread. There are a few pics in this thread, but not what I was seeking:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/showpost.php?p=9206985

 

[CA-280SL]

part numers for 5 speed manual trans

Does anyone have a list of replace ment parts that you ordered from where
When you overhauled your 5 speed manual trans. (717.400)

Seals, bearings, hydraulic slave clyinder ( or repair kit)
Clutch
Clutch disk
Anything for pedals...plastic bushings...etc

I ll probably have the flywheel resurfaced at machine shop.
Pobably new clutch..throwout bearing...clutch disk

Any write ups about this swap would be appreciated.

FOR some reason I cannot search for any threads on my IPAD.

 

[mach4]

My friend Druk from Scotland put a 5 speed in his 107. There's some pretty good information on the swap here - Not "another" diesel 107!!

Check post 74 for his driveshaft solution - may give you some ideas. Also note his transmission support solution.

Good stuff too on things like seats, steering wheel, insulation, rear end, upholstery, and other details.

 

[darylbowden]

Maybe it's because I am not very mechanically inclined but it sure seems like a shit-ton of work and money to do the auto/manual swap. I have a feeling it's gonna end up being cheaper if you were to just buy a manual 280 and go from there.

 

[CA-280SL]

Got a update tiday and my forthcoming 5 speed swap kit should be here on the 21st april. So I getting prepared.
Fonzi has mailed me the front lengthened driveshaft. I have a shop in paso robles that is going to balance the complete unit.
Talked to the guy this morning.

1. DOES anyone have a photo of where the hydraulic line goes thru the dash from transmission to the slave clyinder
At the replacement pedals. I assume i have to drill a hole for the steel line to enter the interior and it would be great
To know about where that hole should be.

2. does anyone have part numbers fir the clutch Disc and throw-out bearing.

3. Part numbers for the rear U-joint and drive shaft center bearing items.

I have tried a dozen times to get the EPC to come up, buypt after i logon and run it, there comes a EPC errorand it throws me off.

I am using windows 7, and it was working a month ago, but not now.

As i remove the automatic tranny I will take photos of the complete process from removal thru
Re-installation of the 717.400 5 speed Manual.

Any and all information will be appreciated.

Dennis

 

[CA-280SL]

I have the car on the lift, and the first thing to come off is the complete muffler system..from exhaust manifolds to the muffler.
I have to wait for that extra set of hands this saturday.

 

[mach4]

I have the car on the lift, and the first thing to come off is the complete muffler system..from exhaust manifolds to the muffler.
I have to wait for that extra set of hands this saturday.

I've had mine on and off a dozen times, by myself. I put the car on some cribs then use a floor jack to support the center muffler (or resonator, not sure what it really is) while I pop off the hangars and loosen the pipe from the manifold. Then it's easy to lower the entire pipe assembly. Basically you want to press the exhaust system up against the bottom of the car while you disassemble it.

Now we both know that my car is different, but when I broke down the car for the swap I removed the entire exhaust system by myself. And even now all of the system is totally stock from where the down tube of the 617 meets the stock system.

Worth a try if you want to get it done earlier.

 

[CA-280SL]

I was working on it this afternoon. I have a roll around metal table and i put some carjacks
Near the front and the other near the back. Took off two cracked rubber rings and left it
As is. Maybe tomorro ill try to see if i can loosen the 4 exhaust manifold bolts first. I sprayed them with
PB blaster when i quit.

 

[107merc]

Dennis; this is how the line runs on the .000, don't know if it applies to your .400.

 

[unavita]

Now that's good intel

From automobile catalog.com the 1985 has a 3.58 differential for both the auto and manual trans versions. I assume your differential will be good for the swap. I can probably box up that driveshaft if you want.

I am pretty sure I took pictures for Nobby in a thread where I think he may have been seeking a driveshaft, and I was trying to tell him he should have taken it while he was here. Then when he saw pics, he said he has NEVER seen a driveshaft that rusty.

It's always nice to know what the ratios were in the various models. 280/300/380's always have those '70 Chevelle numbers. Whereas everything else (esp the 560ECE/RuF) are at 2.65 or less numerically. It really show that MB put a lot of forethought in the entire package from the engine build and power to the trans and rear diff equation.

 

[isthisdave]

Got a update tiday and my forthcoming 5 speed swap kit should be here on the 21st april. So I getting prepared.
Fonzi has mailed me the front lengthened driveshaft. I have a shop in paso robles that is going to balance the complete unit.
Talked to the guy this morning.

1. DOES anyone have a photo of where the hydraulic line goes thru the dash from transmission to the slave clyinder
At the replacement pedals. I assume i have to drill a hole for the steel line to enter the interior and it would be great
To know about where that hole should be.

2. does anyone have part numbers fir the clutch Disc and throw-out bearing.

3. Part numbers for the rear U-joint and drive shaft center bearing items.

I have tried a dozen times to get the EPC to come up, buypt after i logon and run it, there comes a EPC errorand it throws me off.
I am using windows 7, and it was working a month ago, but not now.

As i remove the automatic tranny I will take photos of the complete process from removal thru
Re-installation of the 717.400 5 speed Manual.

Any and all information will be appreciated.



Dennis

re: 1) EGv107. Performance section. Electroshock's thread. Pics.




Barely posted from my iphone3. thx rowdie!

 

[CA-280SL]

Thanks dave, i had looked at this once before, however i had not gone back to the first 10 post.

 

[CA-280SL]

Today I started the removal of the automatic Trans. Photos attached

 

[CA-280SL]

Auto Trans removal process

 

[CA-280SL]

photo of warm up regulator, and drain tubes from A/C unit and Blower motor