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hey guys, if anybody has a 32 amg and your losing coolant don't know where it's going, then take your car to the dealership to get if fixed quick. it's your intercooler that is leaking. i'm taking my car in tommorrow to get it fixed but don't have warrenty so it's gonna be expensive.

i took my intake manifold out to see if it's the intercooler and took some pics.



 
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Wow...that's pretty bad !!! Mine were no where looking like that with HPS intercooler. The intercooler leak problem happen alot on the C32 but very rare on the Slk32. I guess when as the car get old, you be seeing alot of this problem soon on the Slk 32.
 

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Contact Rage2 he had the same problem.

If you don't have to have the car fixed tomorrow you might try contacting someplace like E V O S P O R T and talk to them about the Laminova intercooler. It is much more efficient than stock.
 

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If you're out of warranty, definately get an aftermarket intercooler. The stock intercooler is a Garett part made in Mexico with really horrible weld jobs and it'll break again. A month before my SLK32's lease was over, I was on my way to a second intercooler failure.

If you want to stick with the original part, you can order the core separately (look for the part number, it's probably covered up by the sludge mess). You can get that part for less than 1/2 the price elsewhere than at the dealership as a MB part #.

Also, with so much coolant in the intake system, you're going to get a lot of weird check engine lights. Mostly from wrecked catalytic converters. My entire exhaust emissions system was replaced a few months after the intercooler was replaced.

One final note, I had a huge list of problems on my car after the intercooler was replaced. Refuses to start, stalls randomly, revs randomly, accelerates randomly, random streams of white smoke out the exhaust, running on 3 cylinders, LOTS of weird stuff and ZERO check engine lights relating to the problem, ZERO error codes in the system. Only CEL was from cat converters, and when it ran on 3 cylinders it told us one bank stopped firing. The dealership had my car for 2 months while the service manager changed 1 part at a time from a new SLK32 on the lot and drove it home every single day. 2 months and 2000km later, it turns out there's a secondary MAP sensor near the throttle body, and it got dirty during reassembly giving incorrect readings and causing the car to go haywire.
 
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Lovely...just what I hope not to have happen.

I know Rage2 drove his car hard and I believe amgstyle has been to the track more than once...do you think it is associated with pushing the engine too much?
 

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irvingst said:
Lovely...just what I hope not to have happen.

I know Rage2 drove his car hard and I believe amgstyle has been to the track more than once...do you think it is associated with pushing the engine too much?
Nope. Nothing to do with tracking the car. It is a cooling system nothing more. If it was a thrown rod you might be able to argue it was due to tracking the car.
 
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I understand that it is the cooling system and if you track the car your going to put more demands on the system. A system that was design specifically for the 32's, because of the higher heat production from the increased performance and enhanced manifold pressure.
 

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rage2 said:
If you're out of warranty, definately get an aftermarket intercooler. The stock intercooler is a Garett part made in Mexico with really horrible weld jobs and it'll break again. A month before my SLK32's lease was over, I was on my way to a second intercooler failure.

If you want to stick with the original part, you can order the core separately (look for the part number, it's probably covered up by the sludge mess). You can get that part for less than 1/2 the price elsewhere than at the dealership as a MB part #.

Also, with so much coolant in the intake system, you're going to get a lot of weird check engine lights. Mostly from wrecked catalytic converters. My entire exhaust emissions system was replaced a few months after the intercooler was replaced.

One final note, I had a huge list of problems on my car after the intercooler was replaced. Refuses to start, stalls randomly, revs randomly, accelerates randomly, random streams of white smoke out the exhaust, running on 3 cylinders, LOTS of weird stuff and ZERO check engine lights relating to the problem, ZERO error codes in the system. Only CEL was from cat converters, and when it ran on 3 cylinders it told us one bank stopped firing. The dealership had my car for 2 months while the service manager changed 1 part at a time from a new SLK32 on the lot and drove it home every single day. 2 months and 2000km later, it turns out there's a secondary MAP sensor near the throttle body, and it got dirty during reassembly giving incorrect readings and causing the car to go haywire.
hey rage do you know where i can find a replacement for the intercooler other than the stock ??

the weird thing is my car run's fine. i have no check engine light and no white smoke coming from exhuast.
 

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irvingst said:
I understand that it is the cooling system and if you track the car your going to put more demands on the system. A system that was design specifically for the 32's, because of the higher heat production from the increased performance and enhanced manifold pressure.
Increased heat demands are simply causing the coolant to circulate more often. You have not increased the pressure, caused the cooling system to run lean and ping or knock, created a condition of oil starvation, etc. You just have not created any kind of conditions that will have resulted in a catastrophic failure of the cooling system.
 
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I'd still disagree...with high heat you'd have expansion and when cold there would be contraction...the combination of the two extremes can cause problems. It obviously failing for a reason and load would be a very good one.
 

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I agree that the part is failing for a reason. The reason is a manucaturing or desgin flaw.

The temprature differentials we are talking about are not so great that the heating and cooling would cause significant fatigue due to exapnsion and contraction.
 

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amgstyle said:
hey rage do you know where i can find a replacement for the intercooler other than the stock ??
Find the part #, and I'll find it for you. I couldn't find the picture that I took of it years ago.

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the weird thing is my car run's fine. i have no check engine light and no white smoke coming from exhuast.
Yea, if you keep driving it and it'll eventually happen. It took my dealership over 4 months of coolant loss before they found out it was the intercooler. The loss gets worse and worse, and the water drops faster and faster.

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I'd still disagree...with high heat you'd have expansion and when cold there would be contraction...the combination of the two extremes can cause problems. It obviously failing for a reason and load would be a very good one.
Yea, it's definately extreme temp related. My IC broke both times during winter, where the intercooler goes from -20C to +50C all the time. Kenny's broke at the same time too, always during winter. As for track use, that's in the summer where the IC sits between +20 and +60C, probably less stress than my winter driving.
 

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What 'color' is the coolant supposed to be in the 02 SLK32 ?

The photo's in the above posts, show that it might have been green. In my Slk230, I used the MB 'approved' coolant, and it was more of a light yellow in color. AND NO, I was not staring at my car when I saw the Yellow. This past weekend was the 1st time that I had to spend on my cars, getting the 98 SLK230 ready for sale, AND giving the SLK32 the 'once' over. I noticed that the coolant in my SLK32 appeared to be green. My coolant overflow tank is dark in color, I just lifted the cap to check the level, and noticed that it appeared to be green, so I put that on my list of things to check and/or change.
 

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I have a couple of questions that may be relevant:
(1) Exactly where are the cracks occurring?
(2) Are the cracks occurring at the welds, corners, or somewhere else?
(3) How sharp are the corners of the bends in the sheet aluminum?
(4) How thick is the aluminum where it's welded together?
More photo's would be handy, if this problem becomes epidemic, I think we're going to need as much back up info as we can find to fight for a at least a reduction of cost of the replacements. I guess we have to check with the C-32 guys to see what kind of problems they're having.

I have a request in at the C-32 forum for info, let's see what kind of replies we get.........
 
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