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Situation: '77 300D with very good engine and HORRIBLE exterior paint (it's embarrassing, it's so bad) vs. '84 300D with nice exterior paint, poor engine and rebuilt transmission. How much work is involved in swapping engines? Is this a massive, time-consuming job or is it fairly straigtforward and will the '77 engine bolt up to the '84 transmission? Appreciate info.
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The 77 being a non turbo will be a lot slower than the 84. Whats wrong with the engine? Might be easier to fix it. Especially if it's got a good transmission behind it.
 

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Thanks for the replies. The paint is SO BAD that even cheapo Maaco wanted almost $1,500 to re-paint it (sand to the metal first or see thousands of cracks in the new paint). As for engines, the '84 engine has almost 300K on it, whereas my '77 has only 116K. I get your points, however, and will re-think this carefully. I still would like to know if it's a reasonable job to swap engines.
Thanks again.
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Forgot: the transmission in my '77 really surges on the 2-3 shift if I step on it hard. My indie (very trustworthy) says it's on its way out. Another factor to consider. :confused:
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You can swap the 77 into the 84. You will have to swap some bits and pieces to make everything work however. Such as the transmission your 77 is rod controlled with no vacuum, where as the 84 transmission is cable controlled with vacuum. So you will have to play around and swap bits of the throttle linkage. Also the non turbo uses a lower rear end to help cope with the lower power. If you swap the differentials you'll also have to swap speedos as they are geared to the rear end...
 

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Thanks, dude99. I think I'm going to re-evaluate this whole situation now and may just throw a cheapo paint job on my '77 and see how things work out. The swap thing just keeps getting more complicated and I'm not into complicated things now (77 years old and not able or inclined to do much work myself anymore). Thanks again, everyone.
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I'd invest in fixing the '84 engine. The pre-'80 engne were horribly noisy, rough and not exactly economical. I'd take a post-'80 240D over a pre-'80 300D any day of the week.
 

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If you looking to save yourself the most amount of work, why not sell one and then use the money to have the other one repaired properly. Might be a good way to go...
 

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The 1984 transmission is for the turbo engine, it will fit the non-turbo 1977 300D, but automatic transmissions are specific for a certain engine. Shift points will be different for instance.
 

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FYI, I changed the thread title.
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