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Been driving two W123's for several years, and going to look at a 1996 e300d with 200,000 miles this afternoon. Looks pretty "right", and i'll probably buy it. Just wanted to know if there are any surprises that might let me down, regarding the comparison between the two models of car. I assume it will be pretty-much better in every way, but would love to know if there are any surprises that might make me regret the purchase later. thanks-mick
 

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Non turbo 300D is 134 HP rated. Sure step up from 112 HP in W123, but I sold the car being too annoyed with performance. The turbo diesel is totally different story.
Than if you drive on flat terrain and the price is right -it is a good engine and very good car.
 

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roger that. I'm living in the past, so i don't think i'll be let down with the performance. BTW, my wife drives the turbo 1984. I drive the non-turbo 1981. 85 hp!!!!!!!
When i ride my motorcycle now, it's frightening. Thanks for the comment; i was thinking the same thing.
 

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Read the comments about model issues in stickies.
Those diesels at this age have lot of leaks in fuel lines. Not a big deal to replace, but might give you some edge for price bargain. Ask if transmission was ever serviced. I replaced fluid in 2 of those at 200k with no issues, but lot of members consider 200k on the lifetime fluid a stretch. Take OBDII scanner with you.
 

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'96 didn't come with "lifetime" fluid. That doesn't mean that it's been changed, of course.

My '96 is fast enough for me. Faster than the '83 126 that it replaced. However, note that the turbo models produce much more power and get just a bit better fuel mileage.
 

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It is fairly similar to your '87 trans, but certainly not the same. It lacks a rear pump, for one thing.
 

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took my wife to see the car (the owner is my old mechanic- he bought the car from a client when the IP went out, and he didn't want to put money in the car, so sold it to the mechanic). It had been raining when i saw it before, so was let-down today when i saw the condition of the paint. "checked" on every horizontal surface, and thousands of little pock marks. Clearcoat peeling on the fore-and-aft seams above the windows. That being said, the car feels and looks "right", without driving it. When he fixes it, i'll drive it and make my decision, but i think i know what it will be. A brand new set of michelins helped push me over the edge.
Wow...... a mercedes with a cupholder and a key fob! i'm joining the 21st century!
 

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OP - Went from a '92 400E to a '97 E420. Each model has its own quirks, but I enjoyed them both. Liked the 400E interior better, and the E420 exterior styling more.
 

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When in drive my dad,s w210 e220 cdi manual 6speed tranny, i feel that my diesel w123 is a turtle compared to the power of the w210, but i guess it wouldnt hurt if you have both,the past and the future, all lined up in your garage,
 

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W123 is a turtle and I drove the turbo version with very good engine. (had compression checked at 240,000 miles).
Where I live -we have lot of antique cars. They used to have annual rally. I was surprised with 1926 Ford T still being able to buy "bicycle tires". He was buying them in India.
But with new cars offering so much more comfort, safety and economy the enthusiasts are getting cold showers. I did keep 1969 Ford LTD as a classic few years ago. Surprisingly KBB was giving it close to $5000 value, while being second owner I knew my neighbor bought it originally for $3600. Still was happy to cash $800.
The savings on older car can buy lot of fuel, but after you add the repairs, cleaning oil stains from the driveway and prestige -the newer cars quickly make more sense.
Than we can vary what we call newer. The 1987 300DT I bought for my son last spring is excellent car. I made a hobby of making it dry, so after 6 months of working on it I am almost there, but the car suppose to teach my son some mechanical skills. He helped me with brakes, but stays away from the engine compartment.
 

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well... i finally got the w210. Sold my '81 300d, and kept the '84 300d. I really love the car, but am having a bad/frustrating day. It seems that i have a unique year (96). Can't find a service manual for it. All seem to be for later diesel, or petrol. Reverse lights won't work, but blink on when the car is started, so i know the bulbs and wiring are right. Then today, when raising a rear window, i heard a "pop". Guess i broke a regulator.
Got home, and decided to buy a manual before trying anything else, and literally cannot find one?!? Ebay, amazon, barnes and noble, etc.
Love the car. Far superior in most ways to my other cars, but am becoming discouraged.
Advice on a service manual would be appreciated (non-turbo, m606 engine). thx!
 

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For a service manual, a copy of WIS is what you need. Not easy to navigate, but the stuff is there.
 

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I always succeeded to get all the necessary info for repairs on this forum, so never even bother to seek repair manual.
It did happened that I replaced perfectly good CPS on advise on this forum and had couple other harder experiences, but no life goes perfect.
If I am not mistaken the 96 model has reverse light switch integrated into shifter board. Pretty expensive part. I have occasional issues with neutral safety switch on this board and am trying to auction off my son to get money for new one.
 

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When I got my e320 from my dad it came with two manuals

I could be mistaken, but I think one of them is for a 96 diesel
 
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